关于V4.3.0中更新的"新的历史上下文处理逻辑"的一点体验反馈

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你好，我最近从 v4.1.2 升到了 v4.4.3——我看到这个改动好像是 v4.3.0 引入的——注意到一个现象，想反馈一下。也可能是我理解有误，但觉得还是值得提一嘴。

在 v4.4.3 上，我发现模型在思考模式里会花不少篇幅去解析那句"Continue from the latest state..."的提示词本身，比如理解文件结构、定位最新消息在哪。感觉多了一步跟我要问的问题没什么关系的操作。

而在 v4.1.2 上，模型基本上上来就直奔我真正的问题去了，没有这个绕路的过程。

我有点担心，这部分花在元指令上的额外开销，会不会挤占了模型本该用来处理真实问题的注意力。我知道 v4.3.0 的更新日志提到这个模板改动是为了减少幻觉，但实际用下来，v4.1.2 给我的感觉反而更"专注"一些——至少思考过程是紧紧围绕我要问的东西的。

我没有做过严格的对比测试，所以也说不好两个版本在幻觉上到底差多少。但如果减少幻觉的代价是每次都要在解析文件结构上烧掉一部分注意力，我会有点疑惑这是不是用一种损失换了另一种损失。

纯粹是个人使用感受，说得不一定对，供你参考。

[thezukiru]

I thought I was the only one who noticed this problem. Also, in Cline (VSCode extension), DeepSeek very often breaks tool calls.

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我以为只有我一个人注意到了这个问题。而且在 Cline（VSCode 扩展）里，DeepSeek 经常把工具调用搞坏。

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Perhaps this is an architectural problem with the model's reasoning on DeepSeek's side.

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也许这是 DeepSeek 在模型推理层面上的架构性问题。

[CJackHwang]

这种幻觉是为了减少模型重复调用工具和长任务执行过程中进度回退的问题
不过我已经收到你的反馈了，后续会评估一下旧版本和新版本的差异，看看问题出在哪，并专门做一些测试，综合改进一下

[CJackHwang]

I thought I was the only one who noticed this problem. Also, in Cline (VSCode extension), DeepSeek very often breaks tool calls.

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我以为只有我一个人注意到了这个问题。而且在 Cline（VSCode 扩展）里，DeepSeek 经常把工具调用搞坏。

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Perhaps this is an architectural problem with the model's reasoning on DeepSeek's side.

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也许这是 DeepSeek 在模型推理层面上的架构性问题。

In fact, many people have reported similar problems to me in the project exchange group, but most of the feedback is that the new version is better than the old version, which is also in line with my local test results in the ClaudeCode for VSCode. After I finish my exam , I will re-evaluate the differences between different solutions and comprehensively optimize them.

[thezukiru]

In fact, many people have reported similar problems to me in the project exchange group, but most of the feedback is that the new version is better than the old version, which is also in line with my local test results in the ClaudeCode for VSCode. After I finish my exam , I will re-evaluate the differences between different solutions and comprehensively optimize them.

I wish you good luck on your exams! I'm also approaching exams and actively preparing, so I fully understand how you feel. I hope your project becomes a strong pillar of support for you in the future.

(my native language is Russian xD)

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祝你们考试顺利！我也即将面临考试，正在积极备考，所以非常理解你们的心情。 希望你们的项目能成为你们未来强有力的支撑。

[CJackHwang]

In fact, many people have reported similar problems to me in the project exchange group, but most of the feedback is that the new version is better than the old version, which is also in line with my local test results in the ClaudeCode for VSCode. After I finish my exam , I will re-evaluate the differences between different solutions and comprehensively optimize them.

I wish you good luck on your exams! I'm also approaching exams and actively preparing, so I fully understand how you feel. I hope your project becomes a strong pillar of support for you in the future.

(my native language is Russian xD)

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祝你们考试顺利！我也即将面临考试，正在积极备考，所以非常理解你们的心情。 希望你们的项目能成为你们未来强有力的支撑。

thanks! :D ))))