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Should Italian territorial prelatures and abbacies reduce to the bare see name? #3

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@JohnRDOrazio

Rule 1 of the schema proposal holds that "the type is an attribute, not part of the identity", and the slug is meant to be the see name with generic type words stripped. #2 fixed this for the 58 Italian archdioceses whose Arcidiocesi di prefix the generator was missing.

Seven entries still carry a type word: Italy's territorial prelatures and territorial abbacies. They were deliberately left untouched in #2 because reducing them is a naming decision rather than a generator fix. This issue is to settle it.

The seven entries

current ID name candidate
circ:it-prelatura-territoriale-di-loreto Prelatura territoriale di Loreto circ:it-loreto
circ:it-prelatura-territoriale-di-pompei Prelatura territoriale di Pompei circ:it-pompei
circ:it-abbazia-territoriale-di-montecassino Abbazia territoriale di Montecassino circ:it-montecassino
circ:it-abbazia-territoriale-di-montevergine Abbazia territoriale di Montevergine circ:it-montevergine
circ:it-abbazia-territoriale-di-subiaco Abbazia territoriale di Subiaco circ:it-subiaco
circ:it-abbazia-territoriale-di-monte-oliveto-maggiore Abbazia territoriale di Monte Oliveto Maggiore circ:it-monte-oliveto-maggiore
circ:it-abbazia-territoriale-della-santissima-trinita-di-cava-de-tirreni Abbazia territoriale della Santissima Trinità di Cava de' Tirreni see below

The military ordinariate (circ:it-ordinariato-militare-per-l-italia) is not in scope: rule 5 provides for ordinariates, which have no see beneath the type word.

Conflict check

Checked all seven candidates against the 2,935 seeded IDs. No collisionscirc:it-loreto, circ:it-pompei, circ:it-subiaco, circ:it-montecassino, circ:it-montevergine, circ:it-monte-oliveto-maggiore and circ:it-cava-de-tirreni are all free. So the reduction is mechanically safe, and the question is whether it is right.

The one case that needs a separate decision

Abbazia territoriale della Santissima Trinità di Cava de' Tirreni doesn't reduce cleanly, because its name carries both a dedication (Santissima Trinità) and a place (Cava de' Tirreni):

  • circ:it-cava-de-tirreni — free, but Cava de' Tirreni is already half the title of the archdiocese circ:it-amalfi-cava-de-tirreni. Two distinct circumscriptions would then be identified by the same place, which is exactly the confusion rule 2 exists to prevent.
  • circ:it-santissima-trinita-di-cava-de-tirreni — free and unambiguous, but keeps a di construction and identifies by dedication rather than by see.
  • leave as-is.

Worth noting the abbacies generally differ from dioceses here: an abbacy's identity is bound to a monastery rather than to a civil city, so "the see name" is a less obvious notion for them than for a diocese. Montecassino and Subiaco reduce naturally because monastery and place coincide; Cava de' Tirreni is where that stops being true.

Questions to settle

  1. Should territorial prelatures and abbacies reduce to the bare name under rule 1, or does the type word belong to their identity in the way it does for ordinariates under rule 5?
  2. If they reduce, how is the Cava de' Tirreni abbacy identified?
  3. Should the reduction be encoded in scripts/generate_seed.py's strip rule, or held in the MANUAL override table? The source styles these consistently, so a strip rule would work — but a rule that strips Abbazia territoriale di would apply to any nation's abbacies, and the seed is currently Latin-rite-only with more sources to come.

All IDs remain drafts pending committee review, so this is decidable now at no cost to consumers. Related discussion on identifier stability: #1.

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