Donut: Lip Service InnerSource

[nyeates]

Pattern Donut Idea: “The ‘F’-you InnerSource project” - Where a team says they are innersource because you can ‘simply send us a pull request!’ but they don’t provide avenues for actual ramp-up, friendly community interactions, places to ask questions (and get them answered), documentation to learn, etc. As told to: Nick Yeates

[NewMexicoKid]

Do we want to give this a perhaps more politically correct pattern name? E.g., Simply send us a pull request!

[nyeates]

Yes we can change it. Brainstorming ideas: Ironic pull request. Empty community. Newbie unfriendly. Any others before we make it a PR?

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On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Tim Yao ***@***.***> wrote: Do we want to give this a perhaps more politically correct pattern name? E.g., *Simply send us a pull request!* — You are receiving this because you were assigned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#77 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AANBK_WCQ0Cd6R2N-mOWAXa8h42P6mSoks5sooEjgaJpZM4Pn6uR> .

[beckyjplummer]

What about "we're overloaded, send us a pull request"

[breakbottle]

I like that it really defines the truth of the accepted team that is defined by “we’re overloaded”. However I also feel a sense of empathy to the code submitters, where as the previous name implies a sense of “I don’t care, throw it over the wall”. Did I read too much into that? Clint

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On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 6:39 PM Becky ***@***.***> wrote: What about "we're overloaded, send us a pull request" — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#77 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AJffAWBeut-_0DUC_-yuomZvaYLKX36oks5sosWWgaJpZM4Pn6uR> .

[nyeates]

These are both better names than I gave - thanks! I agree that "I don't care, throw it over the wall" carries more of the tone I detected. Becky?

[NewMexicoKid]

How about "Lip service InnerSource"?

[kjstol]

Oooh I like that. +1 Terse? Mobile. On Oct 4, 2017 13:54, Tim Yao <notifications@github.com> wrote: How about "Lip service InnerSource"? — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#77 (comment)>, or mute the thread<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AQQNZc9RtLFa__vRolQ8QgI0p7uYtU6Pks5so8Z7gaJpZM4Pn6uR>.

[beckyjplummer]

Yes!! On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 at 14:42, Klaas-Jan Stol <notifications@github.com> wrote:

Oooh I like that. +1 Terse? Mobile. On Oct 4, 2017 13:54, Tim Yao ***@***.***> wrote: How about "Lip service InnerSource"? — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub< #77 (comment)>, or mute the thread< https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AQQNZc9RtLFa__vRolQ8QgI0p7uYtU6Pks5so8Z7gaJpZM4Pn6uR>. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#77 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ADKXVTSX49yL0_NGwb4m3MSb6J09dJDeks5so9GGgaJpZM4Pn6uR> .

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[breakbottle]

Yes, I like as well On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:42 PM Klaas-Jan Stol <notifications@github.com> wrote:

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Oooh I like that. +1 Terse? Mobile. On Oct 4, 2017 13:54, Tim Yao ***@***.***> wrote: How about "Lip service InnerSource"? — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub< #77 (comment)>, or mute the thread< https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AQQNZc9RtLFa__vRolQ8QgI0p7uYtU6Pks5so8Z7gaJpZM4Pn6uR>. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#77 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AJffAQf26Ulyzmfj7FksiX5ZTND92-6kks5so9GGgaJpZM4Pn6uR> .

[gregswindle]

Hey, InnerSourcerers!

If the intent behind this Donut reflects @NewMexicoKid's "Lip Service InnerSource," then that's pretty good. Alternatives might be:

1. Insincere InnerSource or
2. Sham InnerSource
3. Disingenuous InnerSource Project

"F*** you InnerSource" feels more pernicious, though. Maybe

1. Unprepared InnerSource
2. Ill-equipped InnerSource Project/Team
3. Slapdash InnerSource

Anyway, I've been eager to jump into the fray. Sincerely 😄.

[gruetter]

+1 for Lip service InnerSource

[spier]

@NewMexicoKid some comments in this thread sound like you had previously talked or written about something called "Lip Service InnerSource". Is there any video or writeup that I can check out?