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= 08 September 2025
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== Meeting recording
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A link to the meeting recording will be provided after the meeting.
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https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/qx3lC2VWbvi7kWsj2LU89w6qBWH905XYZ1JUuQPCvH6n2ry9PsQsgI0jAy_k91f_.Obzu1eeZ9ayDERaG[Meeting recording] (1h31m)
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== Attendees
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== Agenda
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=== Start meeting
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* Welcome and W3C IPR reminder
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* Please comment in the chat for attendance
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* Andrew Dworschak, Yakoa
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* Andy Rosen, Sequence Key
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* Colin Murphy, Adobe
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* Dylan Ross, Adobe
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* Eric Scouten, Adobe
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* Erik Passoja, SAG/AFTRA
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* Gavin Peacock, Adobe
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* Jenny Pretz, DDEX/RIAA
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* Jeremie Charrier, Proof.com
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* Jeremy Uzan, Universal Music
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* Juan Caballero, DIF
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* Misha Deville, Vidos
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* Nigel Earnshaw, BBC
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* Philippe Mougin, AFP
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* Philippe Rixhon, JPEG Trust
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* Richard W. Kroon, EIDR
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* Santiago Lyon, Adobe
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* Scott Jones, RealEyes
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* Scott Perry, Digital Governance Institute
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* Victor Grey, JLINC
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* Will Kreth, HAND (Human & Digital) Identity
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== Meeting notes
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=== New members introduction
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* 🎥 _8'30":_ Jeremie Charrier, Proof.com
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* 🎥 _9'14":_ Jenny Pretz, DDEX/RIAA
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* 🎥 _10'04":_ Misha Deville, Vidos
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🎥 _10'37":_ Reviewed previous action items:
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* *ACTION:* Eric to reach out to Wenjing and other ToIP members to build tighter collaboration on agentic identity. -> UNDERWAY. No new developments.
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* *ACTION:* Eric to explore promotional video ideas. -> UNDERWAY. Working with Adobe team to build a new 1-2 minute video that we can use on site. ETA ~~late August~~ -> early September.
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* *ACTION:* Scott to work up initial draft text to use on CAWG home page. -> DONE. Eric to include on new site.
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* *ACTION:* Luke to revise endorsement PR #11 to incorporate suggestions from Andrew's presentation.
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* *ACTION:* Referred metadata assertion PR #5 back to media identifiers TF to finalize wording and fill in TO DO items. -> UNDERWAY. Partially done in last week's meeting.
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* *ACTION:* Andrew to propose updating examples in remainder of metadata asertion spec to match this suggested usage.
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* *ACTION:* Andrew to propose updating examples in remainder of metadata asertion spec to match this suggested usage. -> NOT DONE
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* *ACTION:* Eric to revise wording to encourage use of human-language and URN-based identifiers. -> NOT DONE
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* *ACTION:* Drummond and Andrew to meet to ensure that FPP and CAWG VC efforts are technically aligned.
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* *ACTION:* Drummond and Andrew to meet to ensure that FPP and CAWG VC efforts are technically aligned. -> NOT DONE
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=== Review metadata assertion PR #5: Media identifiers TF
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Review https://github.com/decentralized-identity/cawg-metadata-assertion/pull/5[metadata assertion PR #5: Media identifiers TF], specifically the phrase:
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🎥 _12'31":_ Reviewed https://github.com/decentralized-identity/cawg-metadata-assertion/pull/5[metadata assertion PR #5: Media identifiers TF], specifically the phrase:
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A CAWG metadata assertion MAY also contain other metadata not directly described in this section.
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_(TO DO: Reword to make it more clear that metadata other than media identifiers can be used in the same metadata assertion. Discuss in full CAWG meeting.)_
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Other to-do items will be address in next media identifiers TF meeting.
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*ACTION:* Eric to revise this sentence and move it into the non-normative introduction section (currently §6.1).
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=== Follow up on 1.2 VC additions
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🎥 _20'31":_ Discussed https://cawg.io/meeting-notes/2025-08-11/#_upcoming_cawg_prs[Upcoming CAWG PRs] discussed in 11 August meeting.
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Andrew previewed an initial draft of the first PR which allows generic VCs and VPs to be incorporated into the identity assertion framework.
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*ACTION:* Andrew to review notes from this discussion and incorporate into a formal draft PR to review in an upcoming meeting.
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*ACTION:* Eric to convene a joint meeting with DIF's Credential Schema Working Group after this PR has gone through another round of CAWG review.
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*ACTION:* Group to revisit the question of what goes into `signer_payload` and what goes into the `signature` field.
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=== Update from JPEG Trust
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Phillippe Rixhon will update the group on latest efforts in JPEG Trust to define rights and renumeration assertions for the C2PA ecosystem.
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🎥 _56'02":_ Phillippe Rixhon provided an update on JPEG Trust, highlighting its progress as a standard in development with partial implementation in European projects. He emphasized the importance of digital identity and wallets in Europe by 2027, noting that this will have a significant impact worldwide, particularly in e-commerce and content access.
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=== Follow up on 1.2 VC additions
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Philippe stressed the need for compatibility between CAWG and the EU digital identity framework, identifying this as a crucial area for future development and collaboration. (Good news: When asked about the work on general-purpose VCs and VPs that Andrew presented earlier, Phillippe suggested that we “in good shape” to develop a standard that s compatible with EU DI framework.)
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EU IPO, the Intellectual Property Office of the European Union, published in May an important study on Gen AI from the point of view of copyright.
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Discuss https://cawg.io/meeting-notes/2025-08-11/#_upcoming_cawg_prs[Upcoming CAWG PRs] discussed in 11 August meeting. What can we do to move these proposals forward?
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*ACTION:* Phillippe to provide Eric with a link to this report, which will be added to meeting notes.

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