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Tab bar flickering randomly on both stable and preview version #14384

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poqdavid opened this issue Nov 13, 2022 · 20 comments
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Tab bar flickering randomly on both stable and preview version #14384

poqdavid opened this issue Nov 13, 2022 · 20 comments
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@poqdavid
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Windows Terminal version

1.16.2642.0

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10.0.22621.0

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Steps to reproduce

Just by normal usage but also sometimes it's triggered more when the app loses and gains focus

Expected Behavior

Expecting the tab bar not to flicker

Actual Behavior

Windows Terminal tab bar flickers randomly
WindowsTerminal_2022-11-12_17-14-47
@poqdavid poqdavid added Issue-Bug It either shouldn't be doing this or needs an investigation. Needs-Triage It's a new issue that the core contributor team needs to triage at the next triage meeting labels Nov 13, 2022
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Also want to add that all drivers are updated and this happens with both iGPU and dedicated Nvidia GPU
and wanted to mention I have both Stable and Preview versions installed

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Is this only in pwsh? What if run it with -noprofile or temporary reset the prompt function function prompt { "PS $pwd> " }

@zadjii-msft
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This just looks like a bug with acrylic itself. Can you file feedback via the Feedback Hub? I don't know what the area path for that might be... maybe Composition? Effects? Not sure if those are real paths.

I suspect this might get better with #13935. The "flickering" you see looks like the titlebar showing through, even though it shouldn't be. I bet when we hide the titlebar in that PR, this will go away

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@237dmitry No it's not just pwsh I tested it with other ones too and I did a profile reset also, I repaired the app but didn't make any difference I even tested different rendering options with the preview version

This just looks like a bug with acrylic itself. Can you file feedback via the Feedback Hub? I don't know what the area path for that might be... maybe Composition? Effects? Not sure if those are real paths.

I suspect this might get better with #13935. The "flickering" you see looks like the titlebar showing through, even though it shouldn't be. I bet when we hide the titlebar in that PR, this will go away

@zadjii-msft Oh sure here just made the feedback https://aka.ms/AAiq4zx, and also is there any ETA on when that PR will be on the preview version?

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lhecker commented Nov 15, 2022

This issue seems quite unusual. I don't think we've seen anything like this before (with something like that green flickering), right? I hope your main memory / RAM isn't defective...

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This issue seems quite unusual. I don't think we've seen anything like this before (with something like that green flickering), right? I hope your main memory / RAM isn't defective...

oh sorry I should have mentioned that green color is just my theme color I keep changing it to different ones time to time

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also relevant:

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@zadjii-msft should I change my feedback from Category Apps > Windows Terminal to something else?

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Hey just looping back on this, lost it over the holidays.

"Category Apps > Windows Terminal" probably won't get this to the right area path. That would go to us, but our feedback provider isn't gonna capture the graphics traces that {someone} needs. There's probably a more accurate one for a "composition" or "acrylic" area. Alas, Feedback Hub is turbofucked on my machine so I can't look it up myself 😕

It's also possible that this was something that was already fixed by the composition team. Did this happen to go away on its own/?

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poqdavid commented Feb 9, 2023

@zadjii-msft Well I just checked both Windows Terminal Preview Version: 1.17.1023 and Windows Terminal Version: 1.16.10262.0 they still have the same exact problem unfortunately

also what category I should change it to?

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@zadjii-msft Well I just checked both Windows Terminal Preview Version: 1.17.1023 and Windows Terminal Version: 1.16.10262.0 they still have the same exact problem unfortunately

also what category I should change it to?

Try "Desktop Environment" > "DWM (Desktop Window Manager)"

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Try "Desktop Environment" > "DWM (Desktop Window Manager)"

Ok thank you since I couldn't edit the feedback I made a new one and linked the existing one and here is the new one https://aka.ms/AAjms05

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DHowett commented Mar 1, 2023

Thanks for the feedback! We're tracking it internally at (you won't be able to see) MSFT-43378906

Marking this one up for "external" tracking.

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marbaa commented Sep 18, 2023 •
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Stable Version: 1.17.11461.0
Windows 11 22621.2134

I'm not experiencing flickering, but when Acrylic tabs are enabled, when I switch to other tab, the tabbar switches from acrylic to transparent and stays transparent. It doesn't happen when making screenshot or recording screen with Snipping tool.

When I take focus away from Terminal and bring back, tab bar is acrylic again. Then switch to other tab and it is again transparent.

Dell 7560 with Nvidia T1200 GPU.

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I still get it on both the Stable and Preview version
Asus GL504GW with Nvidia 2070 (TU106M) driver 537.34

Stable Version: 1.17.11461.0 Windows 11 22621.2134

I'm not experiencing flickering, but when Acrylic tabs are enabled, when I switch to other tab, the tabbar switches from acrylic to transparent and stays transparent. It doesn't happen when making screenshot or recording screen with Snipping tool.

When I take focus away from Terminal and bring back, tab bar is acrylic again. Then switch to other tab and it is again transparent.

Dell 7560 with Nvidia T1200 GPU.

Are you using Gaming or Studio drivers?
I am not sure with professional mobile graphics cards what driver is mainly used I assume it would be the Studio version

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marbaa commented Sep 18, 2023 •
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No idea which are those. Notebook is managed by our IT department.
Current version: 528.79

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Funny is, that my teammember has same notebook, same OS, Windows Terminal, because they are centrally managed. And he doesn't have those flickering. 🙄

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krali27 commented Oct 4, 2023 •
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I've been seeing this flickering for a while on my Asus Flow X16 (2023 model). Has both an Intel XE igpu (Which is what I use for anything desktop) and Nvidia 4070 mobile, using Studio drivers. It usually happens whenever I use Terminal but not always, and sometimes goes away or gets better.

Intel driver version is 31.0.101.4575 (latest offered by Asus)
Nvidia driver is 536.67 / 31.0.15.3667 (not up to date, but I'm not using dgpu much and not for this)
Terminal 1.17.11461.0

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note to self: I actually don't think that this is related to #16745

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marbaa commented Dec 7, 2024

Seems this is another, unsolvable issue. Tab bar randomly flickers on new tab, window losing focus, etc.
Doesn't matter if I set Intel iGPU/Nvidia dedicated/Let Windows Decide for GPU acceleration in Windows settings, or completely disable hardware acceleration in Terminal.

I would rather remove/not ship feature that doesnt' work and is impossible to fix for 2+ years.

Stable: 1.22.3231.0
Preview: 1.22.3232.0
Canary: 1.23.3411.0

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Same issue, but only when I am using Windows 11. Windows 10 doesn't seem to have this issue.

I didn't conduct further research. Perhaps it's just the well-known decline in code quality of Windows 11.

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