This weeks meeting

Author: nrc

minutes/meeting notes 2017-11-20.md

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+# November 20th, 2017
+
+Agenda week, Vidyo meeting: 2018 planning
+
+## Notes
+
+The meeting covered initial planning for dev tools in 2018. This was basically
+'requirements gathering' and brain storming, with no attempt at prioritisation
+yet.
+
+
+### Some overall thoughts
+
+* Lots of ongoing work from this year
+* Likely that consolidation will be a big part of next year's work
+* Debugging is a big area for work.
+* Moving Rustup functionality into Cargo will be very user-facing
+* Continue to improve workflow around tools distribution (and integration with Rust repo).
+* We should improve tool ergonomics across the board
+  - in particular being on nightly sucks
+* Could we abstract over the compiler a bit more to have a uniform API for tools?
+
+
+### WASM
+
+* Possibly big next year
+* What will debugging look like
+  - Can we ensure Rust will be well-supported (c.f., DWARF)
+* Build tools, webpack integration (already started)
+
+
+### IDEs
+
+* Refactoring
+* Debugging
+
+RLS:
+
+* 1.0
+* compiler-driven code completion
+* stability (users and clients need it)
+* better Clippy integration (Rustfix approach? - killercup)
+
+IntelliJ:
+
+* macro support
+* feature work - refactoring, etc.
+* debugging - blocked on CLion (need to make it work with Cargo)
+
+
+### Debugging
+
+Goal: less pain!
+
+* LLDB support
+* better Dwarf info from compiler in parallel with debuggers
+* expression parsing - can we recycle bits of the compiler? Lots of trade-offs!
+
+
+### Rustdoc
+
+New rustdoc:
+
+* exist!
+* on a par with current rustdoc
+  - good enough to stop working on current rustdoc, not necessarily bug-for-bug compatible
+* experiment with stuff (book views, source exploration, etc)
+
+Current rustdoc:
+
+* Continue incremental improvements
+* paths/links RFC (compiler work)
+
+
+### Clippy
+
+* rustup distribution
+* more lints
+* factor util code into rustc? (Abstraction layer?)
+* 1.0 release
+* improve suggestions (auto-application, rustfix)
+
+
+### Testing
+
+* extensibility is important
+* also nice to have better default system - setup/teardown, etc.
+* can we make it extensible enough to experiment with?
+* inspecting output in IDEs
+* JSON output
+* fuzzing
+* doc tests too want setup/teardown
+
+
+### Cargo and Xargo
+
+* support local registries
+
+Xargo:
+
+* make it part of Cargo and disappear!
+* coordinate with rustup into Cargo stuff
+