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# Embedded Working Group Meeting Notes
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* [Coordination Repository]
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* Meetings: Tuesday 8pm Europe/Berlin time
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* [Join the Chat]
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* Today's meeting: 2019-11-12
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[Coordination Repository]: https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg
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[Join the Chat]: https://riot.im/app/#/room/#rust-embedded:matrix.org
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## Attendance
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Write your GH username or Matrix handle here!
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* jamesmunns
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* therealprof
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* korken89
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* japaric
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* adamgreig
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* charles
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## Reminders
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* Blog Post
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* https://github.com/rust-embedded/blog/blob/master/content/2019-11-28-newsletter-21.md
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## This Week's Agenda
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* From last week:
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* Foundational crates push to 1.0
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* https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/issues/383
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* cortex-m
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* Still has unsound mutex
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* Issue #?
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* svd2rust - still in flux
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* Major version support policy?
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* Only current major?
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* Current and previous major (debian style)?
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* Homework: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2803
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* RFC: Official support policy (at least for >= 1.0.0)?
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* Make tracking issue(s) for crate stabilization?
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* Changing the way embedded-hal receives cool stuff: https://github.com/rust-embedded/embedded-hal/issues/163
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* Infra team is asking whether we would like to use Rust infrastructure more and are willing to have their bot have full access to embedded WG repositories, giving us:
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* Proper team membership handling including sub-teams
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* Automatic permission handling for all bots and repositories
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* Sub-team displays on the Rust Governance page
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* Access to all current and new bots they run, cf. https://github.com/rust-lang/team
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* PSA from adamgreig: stm32-rs 0.9 was released 🎉
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* Didn't get to this week:
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* Mutex Trait (@korken89)
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* https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/pull/377
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* No consensus about associated type, slight preference of `Data`
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* Reference impl: https://github.com/korken89/core-mutex/blob/master/src/lib.rs
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* Randomizing symbol names vs. reproducible builds (@jschievink):
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* https://github.com/rust-embedded/cortex-m-rt/pull/205
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* Waiting for @jschievink to implement the trampoline approach
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* Meeting participants in favour of getting rid of the randomizing hack
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## This Week's Action Items
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* [ ] Read https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2803
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* [ ] Add notes re: stabilization to the tracking issue
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## Last Week's Agenda
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* From last week:
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* Foundational crates push to 1.0
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* https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/issues/383
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* cortex-m
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* Still has unsound mutex
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* Issue #?
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* svd2rust - still in flux
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* Major version support policy?
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* Only current major?
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* Current and previous major (debian style)?
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* Homework: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2803
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* RFC: Official support policy (at least for >= 1.0.0)?
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* Make tracking issue(s) for crate stabilization?
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* Mutex Trait (@korken89)
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* https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/pull/377
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* No consensus about associated type, slight preference of `Data`
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* Reference impl: https://github.com/korken89/core-mutex/blob/master/src/lib.rs
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* Didn't get to this week
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* Randomizing symbol names vs. reproducible builds (@jschievink):
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* https://github.com/rust-embedded/cortex-m-rt/pull/205
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* Waiting for @jschievink to implement the trampoline approach
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* Meeting participants in favour of getting rid of the randomizing hack
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* PSA from @japaric, new PR to fix Mutex impl: https://github.com/rust-embedded/wg/pull/388
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## Last Week's Action Items
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* [x] @therealprof write an RFC for changing the embedded-hal trait inclusion mechanics
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* https://github.com/rust-embedded/embedded-hal/issues/163
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* [ ] Read https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2803
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* [ ] Add notes re: stabilization to the tracking issue
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* [x] @jamesmunns: Go release the newsletter
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## Crates to Stabilize
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Please list for each crate: "Why" and "Any Blockers". Ex:
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* crate-foo
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* Why: It's used by every bar
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* Blockers: Needs `baz` to stabilize
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### List:
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* [`cortex-m`](https://github.com/rust-embedded/cortex-m)
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* Why: Foundational to majority of supported MCUs
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* Blockers:
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* MMIO/Register reference soundness?
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* Possibly need to use `svd2rust` for peripherals?
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* [`cortex-m-rt`](https://github.com/rust-embedded/cortex-m-rt)
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* Why: Foundational to majority of supported MCUs
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* Blockers: Review pending RFCs/PRs for potential breaking changes
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* ramfuncs, more user defined memory segments
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* [`aligned`](https://github.com/japaric/aligned)
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* Why: `cortex-m` depends on it
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* Blockers:
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* [`as-slice`](https://github.com/japaric/as-slice)
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* Why: `aligned` depends on it
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* Blockers:
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* [`generic-array`](https://github.com/fizyk20/generic-array)
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* Why:
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* Used for generic numeric types until const generics lands
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* Still a number of issues to address for [const generics](https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/labels/A-const-generics) as of today
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* Blockers:
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* [`bare-metal`](https://github.com/japaric/bare-metal)
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* Why: Foundational to pretty much every MCU application written in Rust
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* Blockers: Not in WG hand, depends on @japaric / @korken89
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* [`vcell`](https://github.com/japaric/vcell)
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* Why: `svd2rust`-generated crates and `cortex-m` depend on it
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* Blockers:
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* [`volatile-register`](https://github.com/japaric/vcell)
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* Why:
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* Primary abstraction for MMIO
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* Blockers:
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* potential MMIO soundness issues (spurious reads)
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* [`panic-halt`](https://github.com/korken89/panic-halt)
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* Why: This has become one of the primary panic implementations, which is necessary for a `#![no_std]`application
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* Blockers:
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* Probably none, @korken89 is interested in making it happen
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* [`embedded-hal`](https://github.com/rust-embedded/embedded-hal)
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* Why: Foundational for applications using common peripherals
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* Blockers:
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* Many open issues, lots of peripherals still missing
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* `digital::v1` vs. `digital::v2` kerfuffle
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* Lots of traits are `unproven`
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* [`svd2rust`](https://github.com/japaric/vcell)
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* Why: Main tool to generate register interfaces for MCUs
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* Blockers: More optimisation to make created code sound and viable for production, still very slow and bloaty
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* [`heapless`](https://github.com/japaric/heapless)
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* Why: Some things are some much nicer if they can use dynamic memory
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* Blockers: Not in WG hand, depends on @japaric / @korken89
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### Crates we need
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* `panic-reset`
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* Some kind of basic stable allocator?
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* `alloc-cortex-m` still unstable, blocked on https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/51540
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* `async`/`await` support and a task executor
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* Blocked on: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/62918

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