Crazy Idea: VisionOS Demo + Editor Integration

[miogds]

Lately, after splitting the editor, I’ve been thinking about new demos we could build—and last night I had a crazy idea I want to share.

🎯 The Core Concept

What if we expand the editor so it can also run on macOS and VisionOS?
The same editor interface would be there (scene view, filters, logs, etc.), but in VisionOS it would adapt to the real environment:

• Scene grid: Instead of being abstract, the grid is rendered on the detected floor plane.
• Interaction: Users can move, rotate, and scale objects directly with their hands.
• Floating panels: Editor windows (scene, filters, logs, etc.) would float around as windows in your space.

This turns the editor into an immersive, spatial development tool.

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🕹️ Demo Proposal

As a first demo, I’d love to reimagine the Futbol/foosball game for VisionOS:

• Place the virtual table on any real-world surface (like your desk).
• Play using controllers, with network support (for now just 2 players).
• Leverage SharePlay + Persona, so players can see each other while playing.

👉 I’ve already implemented several apps using networking capabilities from SharePlay and Persona in VisionOS, so adding this functionality will be straightforward.

This demo would serve as both:

1. A showcase for the engine’s multi-platform capability (iOS, macOS, tvOS, VisionOS).
2. A lightweight, fun, and publishable game that could stand alone in the Vision App Store.

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📦 Distribution Flow

While the editor can run the game internally, testing network communication will require a packaged build.

Proposal:

• Create a standalone repo (separate from UntoldEngine core).
• This repo handles the packaging flow, similar to Unreal’s “distribution package”: generating Xcode projects for VisionOS deployment.
• Publish both:
  • Futbol standalone game.
  • Editor VisionOS version (as a playground/editor demo).

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🎮 Why Foosball Works

I’m not aiming for FIFA-level complexity. A foosball-like game is:

• Simple enough to implement and iterate on.
• Fun + social, a good candidate for App Store release.
• Unique: I haven’t seen anything like this in the VisionOS store yet.

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I think that the engine could be ready ( enough ) and the game before christmas.

👉 What do you all think—worth prototyping?

[untoldengine]

Holy cow!!!
So, basically, users will be able to set up the soccer scene with hand gestures, click play, and the game starts? That would be a great demo, and it can give some marketing visibility to the engine as well.

A couple of questions:

1. The Immersive soccer game will live in another repo, correct? However, the engine's repo will have the enhanced visionOS+Editor.
2. Thinking ahead here. Will the visionOS editor allow users to save the scene while in immersive mode? I see developers setting up their scenes and wanting to save them so they can work on them later.

[miogds]

Yes, you build with your hands and hit play, and you will be able to start playing with a game controller. It will be a passthrough game; you see your real environment and the soccer table in front of you at the closest flat surface like a desktop.

Answers:

1. The idea is to put the soccer game in another repo only to be able to maintain it separately and upload it for the App Store, all AppStores visionOS, macOS, iOS, and tvOS. But it's just an idea.
The editor will be in the actual repo, but just for now, because it's easy to maintain the macOS + VisionOS version, which we can upload to the App Store as well, but in the long run, as the editor grows, I'm pretty sure we will move to its own repo.

2. Yes, it will allow the users to save the scene like the macOS editor does. The idea is to be a full editor for VisionOS, not a stripped-down version. Also, I think that a nice feature will be to share the project bundle to your friends, and because the editor is in the App Store, everyone can download and load the scene bundle so they can share play, working together and playing together.

3. To test this. Do you have an Apple Vision Pro?

One more thing

Because Vision OS is better to use your hands, we can add a visual scripting engine, kind of like Blueprints in Unreal, but more simple, to be able to connect "bubbles" or function "bubbles" to add logic to the game. For a real game, Swift will be better, but for small logic scripting, we could use Lua (it's really optimized and simple) and build a visual bubbles on top.

[miogds]

I was wrapping my head around it, and I changed my mind.

Forget about the standalone game repo, I think the game has to be the demo bundle to show the possibility of the editor to test everything before packaging a version of your game, including playing with others through network or SharedPlay on vision our any other apple platform.

The only app available in the App Stores will be the Editor, which you load the actual bundle game, the table soccer game, and as soon as you hit play, you will be able to play with your friends in a persona/FaceTime call. ( which for now we avoid a server/client network api for the moment )

The good thing about this strategy is we focus on the editor (plus the game, that should be fully playable), but we give the ability to everyone to create their own games and share with others...

What do you think?