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[None][perf] Triton FP8-activation MoE for decode-sized batches on Hopper - #21250
Split out of #20878 (GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 on Hopper) so MoE owners can review it on its own. The other changes are in #21179 (Python) and #21178 (C++).
On SM90, FP8 block-scale MoE runs through the fp8_block_scales CUTLASS leaf (DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl).
Its grouped DeepGEMM kernel walks every expert group on one persistent CTA per SM. At decode batch sizes most experts are
empty, so the GEMMs stay far from the bandwidth bound.
The leaf's run_moe now runs Triton FP8-activation kernels when all of these hold: a plain SwiGLU (optionally clamped by
a scalar), no expert bias, no LoRA, BF16 input, no caller-provided output buffer and at most 32 tokens per rank.
Otherwise it keeps the fused op. The Triton path consists of:
per-1x128 FP8 activation quantization and FP8 x FP8 GEMMs with 128x128 weight scales; the grid covers only the expert
blocks the batch can occupy;
SwiGLU fused with the FP8 quantization of the FC2 input;
a single-program moe_align for up to 128 (token, expert) pairs, and a top-k sum kernel.
The Triton path follows the fused op's rounding, so a batch's result does not depend on whether it takes this path:
both FP8 quantizers multiply by 448 / amax with correctly rounded division (tl.math.div_rn), the SwiGLU output is
rounded to BF16 before its FP8 quantization, and the routing weights scale the BF16 expert outputs in the top-k sum
rather than the FC2 accumulators. On H200 it matches the fused op bit for bit on 1-token inputs and within one BF16 ulp
otherwise.
For MoE owners
This leaf's id names the DeepGEMM grouped GEMM, while the small-batch path is a Triton kernel. Please say if you would
rather have the small-batch path as its own identity.
The leaf serves every FP8 block-scale MoE on SM90 (e.g. DeepSeek-V3/R1 FP8), so those models also take this path at
decode sizes. So far it has only been measured on GLM-5.3-Flash (TP4, EP1).
With expert parallelism, (token, expert) pairs owned by other ranks keep a clamped local expert id with zero weight,
as in the SM120 Triton path, so they are still computed.
Performance
H200, 288 experts, top-8, hidden 4096, 512 intermediate per rank (CUDA graph), full MoE: 4 tokens 64.7 us, 1 token
28.7 us. On the grouped DeepGEMM path the FC1/FC2 GEMMs alone take 53/47 us and 43/36 us.
GLM-5.3-Flash FP8, H200 TP4, MTP3, ISL 13312 / OSL 33, concurrency 1: decode step 14.4 -> 11.7 ms, 184 -> 225.5 output
tok/s per user; GSM8K unchanged. Measured on the #20878 branch (older main); not yet re-measured on this branch.
Test Coverage
test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py (added to l0_h100.yml):
FP8-activation MoE against an FP32 reference with 1x128 FP8-rounded activations: no clamp, clamp, clamp after SiLU;
1 to 24 tokens; a non-power-of-two expert count.
moe_align (single-program and multi-kernel) for non-power-of-two expert counts.
ConfigurableMoE FP8 block-scale accuracy test (against a dense FP8 reference): all 9 SM90 cases pass.
PR Checklist
PR description clearly explains what and why.
Test cases are provided for new code paths.
No API changes.
Dev Engineer Review
DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl now selects a Triton FP8-activation path for eligible BF16 inputs with at most 32 tokens per rank. It falls back to the fused MoE op for unsupported activation, bias, input-scale, LoRA, output-buffer, clamp, or batch-size cases. The new kernels quantize activations per 1×128 group, run FP8 GEMMs, apply SwiGLU, and combine routed outputs.
The main review risk is integration coverage. The added numerical tests call the Triton entry point directly; they do not verify dispatch through run_moe, fallback behavior, or expert-parallel routing. The change also expands the H100 test-list entry from one test to the full module. The new SM90 tests have a capability skip, but the broader CI runtime impact is not established here.
No completed CI, build, or test results were supplied. Performance figures and accuracy claims in the objectives are author-reported, not independently verified here.
QA Engineer Review
The unit-test module adds FP8-activation comparisons against an FP32 reference for 1, 4, 16, and 24 tokens, with three SwiGLU clamp modes. It also checks small and multi-kernel MoE alignment with non-power-of-two expert counts. The H100 CI list now selects the full test module rather than one alignment test. The tests cover core kernel behavior, but do not exercise implementation dispatch or its fallback conditions. Coverage verdict: needs follow-up.
Per-File QA Perspective
tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md — Documents the new dispatch conditions and Triton entry point. Verify that the documented conditions remain aligned with the implementation.
tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/cutlass/fp8_block_scales_hopper.py — Adds runtime dispatch and fallback behavior. QA should verify eligible-path selection, fallback conditions, and local expert routing.
tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/fused_moe_triton_fp8_block_scale.py — Adds FP8-activation quantization, GEMM, alignment, and top-k combination kernels. The new path is tested by the modified unit-test file; dispatch-level behavior is not covered there.
tests/unittest/_torch/moe/fused_moe/test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py — Adds alignment and FP8-activation reference tests. The module is listed in tests/integration/test_lists/test-db/l0_h100.yml for CI; no manual-QA list change is shown.
tests/integration/test_lists/test-db/l0_h100.yml — Replaces the single alignment test selector with the full test module. This increases the H100 CI selection; the runtime impact is not available.
…pper
On SM90 the CUTLASS MoE path runs FP8 block-scale expert GEMMs through the
grouped DeepGEMM kernel: one persistent CTA per SM that walks every expert
group. At decode batch sizes most experts are empty and each SM streams its
weight tiles through a single serialized pipeline, so the GEMMs stay far
from the bandwidth bound.
For a plain SwiGLU (optionally clamped by a scalar), no expert bias, no
LoRA and at most 32 tokens per rank, the SM90 fp8_block_scales leaf
(DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl) now runs a Triton path, and keeps
the fused op otherwise:
- per 1x128 FP8 activation quantization, and FP8 x FP8 GEMMs with 128x128
weight scales whose grid covers only the expert blocks the batch can
occupy;
- SwiGLU fused with the FP8 quantization of the FC2 input;
- a single-program moe_align for up to 128 (token, expert) pairs and a
top-k sum kernel.
moe_align_block_size also accepts expert counts that are not a power of two.
Without expert parallelism the routed expert IDs are used as-is.
H200, 288 experts, top-8, hidden 4096, 512 intermediate per rank (CUDA
graph), full MoE: 4 tokens 64.7 us, 1 token 28.7 us; the FC1/FC2 GEMMs on
the grouped DeepGEMM path take 53/47 us and 43/36 us.
GLM-5.3-Flash FP8, H200 TP4, MTP-3, 13K-token prompt, concurrency 1:
decode step 14.4 -> 11.7 ms, 184 -> 225.5 output tok/s per user; GSM8K
unchanged.
Signed-off-by: Ruocheng Jia <ruochengj@nvidia.com>
…decode MoE
The Triton FP8-activation MoE rounded differently from the fused CUTLASS
op it replaces at decode sizes, so the result of a batch depended on its
size. ConfigurableMoE's FP8 block-scale accuracy test (assert_close with
rtol 1e-2 and atol 0.1 against a dense FP8 reference) failed 3 of its 9
SM90 cases. The differences:
- Activations were quantized as x / (amax / 448) with Triton's default
approximate division. The CUTLASS quantizer multiplies by 448 / amax and
stores the reciprocal, both correctly rounded. BF16 inputs often land
exactly on an FP8 rounding midpoint, so the division error decided the
rounding direction of whole elements.
- The SwiGLU output was quantized from FP32; the CUTLASS epilogue rounds it
to BF16 first.
- The routing weights scaled the FC2 accumulators before the BF16 rounding;
the CUTLASS finalize scales the BF16 expert outputs in FP32.
Follow the CUTLASS steps in all three places: both quantizers use
tl.math.div_rn, the FC2 GEMM no longer takes the routing weights and the
top-k sum applies them. On H200 the Triton path now matches the fused op
bit for bit on the 1-token cases of the test and within one BF16 ulp
elsewhere, and all 9 cases pass.
In test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py the reference follows the same rounding,
and the FP8-activation test passes the SwiGLU limit through _make_inputs,
which now returns it (the call failed with a duplicate keyword argument).
Signed-off-by: Ruocheng Jia <ruochengj@nvidia.com>
The change adds a Triton FP8-activation MoE path for eligible SM90 decode batches, integrates it into the Hopper implementation, and adds alignment and output tests.
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SM90 FP8-Activation MoE Path
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Summary
Alignment and FP8 compute primitives tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/fused_moe_triton_fp8_block_scale.py
Forward path and validation tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/fused_moe_triton_fp8_block_scale.py, tests/unittest/_torch/moe/fused_moe/test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py, tests/integration/test_lists/test-db/l0_h100.yml
Adds the decode-oriented forward path. Tests check alignment and compare outputs with a reference for several token counts and clamp settings. The H100 pre-merge list now runs the full test module.
Hopper dispatch and documentation tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/cutlass/fp8_block_scales_hopper.py, tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md
The Hopper implementation selects the Triton path for supported inputs and falls back to the fused MoE op for other inputs. The guide describes the added path.
sequenceDiagram
participant Hopper as DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl
participant Triton as run_triton_fp8_block_scale_moe_fp8_act
participant Align as _moe_align_small or moe_align_block_size
participant GEMMs as FP8 expert GEMMs
participant Combine as Top-k output combination
Hopper->>Triton: Dispatch supported inputs
Triton->>Align: Align routed token-expert pairs
Align-->>Triton: Padded expert blocks and token IDs
Triton->>GEMMs: Quantized activations and aligned expert blocks
GEMMs-->>Triton: Expert outputs
Triton->>Combine: Expert outputs and routing weights
Combine-->>Hopper: Combined output tensor
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NVIDIA/TensorRT-LLM#20741: Establishes DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl, which this change extends with a Triton execution path.
Merge Risk: Low · up to 1c968
The new Triton decode path is gated to eligible SM90 batches and falls back to the existing fused op for everything else. The dispatch logic and the multi-rank expert-parallel masking have no direct test, so a regression there could go unnoticed. Adding targeted tests is recommended, but nothing concrete blocks merging.
Security architecture risk: Low · up to 1c968
The change remains within GPU inference execution and retains the existing fallback for unsupported inputs. No introduced security defect was established, but routing edge cases and empty-batch behavior remain incompletely verified.
Retained concerns
No architecture-level concerns identified.
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Security Blast Radius
inferred — The directly inspected execution scope comprises one rank’s activations, local expert weights, scratch tensors, and inference outputs, followed by the existing distributed combine. The inspected sources do not establish deployment-level tenant or process isolation.
Trust Boundaries and Controls
observed — The normal Hopper caller uses separated routing: the inherited CUTLASS capability returns true for routing separation, and the scheduler produces concrete expert IDs before dispatch. The shared context’s allowance for absent IDs therefore does not by itself establish a reachable failure in this path.
Resilience and Maintainability Implications
observed — The helper allocates alignment storage, quantized activations, FC intermediates, and output per call rather than updating shared persistent execution state. For valid expert IDs, alignment and GEMM masks distinguish real pairs from padded rows before finalization consumes the per-pair results.
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Add tests for the Hopper dispatch, the expert-parallel scale masking and the None-scale fallback.
This PR adds three observable behaviors in run_moe. No added test exercises any of them:
The selector _triton_fp8_act_swiglu chooses between the Triton path and _run_fused_moe_op. Its conditions are the 32-token boundary, expert bias, LoRA, moe_output and a tensor-valued clamp.
For ep_size > 1, local_ids are clamped and local_scales are zeroed where local_ids != offsets. A regression here sends non-owned pairs to local expert 0 or the last local expert. Those pairs then add incorrect contributions to the output without any error. Padding IDs of -1 or num_slots are also handled by this masking.
If token_final_scales is None, the code substitutes ones.
test_fp8_act_matches_reference calls run_triton_fp8_block_scale_moe_fp8_act directly. It never goes through run_moe. The PR reports that the ConfigurableMoE accuracy test passes, but that does not establish that the test reaches the Triton branch with ep_size > 1.
Smallest practical additions:
Add a unit test in tests/unittest/_torch/moe/fused_moe/test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py. It should build local_ids/local_scales the way run_moe does: use slot_start > 0 and include some IDs outside the local range, plus -1. Compare the result with _run_moe_fp8_act_reference, keeping only the owned pairs.
Add a parametrized dispatch test on DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl with 32 and 33 tokens. It should assert which path runs, for example by patching _run_fused_moe_op.
Test coverage summary for this cohort:
Modified files: tests/unittest/_torch/moe/fused_moe/test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py and tests/integration/test_lists/test-db/l0_h100.yml. The list entry now selects the whole module.
Added tests: test_moe_align_non_power_of_two_experts[8|72-multi_kernel|single_program], and test_fp8_act_matches_reference for {1, 4, 16, 24} tokens × {no_clamp, clamp, clamp_after_silu}.
Covered: both alignment paths, including the 128-pair threshold (16×8) and above it (24×8), FP8 rounding and the clamp ordering.
Not covered: the Hopper selector, expert-parallel masking, the None-scale fallback, output_dtype, and 0 tokens.
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Add focused tests for the observable behavior in run_moe: verify the Hopper
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Thanks for splitting this out. The Triton kernels themselves check out: the alignment, the grid bound, the indexing, the SwiGLU halves and clamp order, and the quantizer arithmetic match the fused op. Counts: 1 blocker, 3 possibly blocking, 8 required, 6 nice to have. The blocker is a pre-merge CPU-stage test failure (inline at fp8_block_scales_hopper.py:89); the possibly-blocking items need the measurements given inline (the EP > 1 cost, the default-on switch with no opt-out, and mid-serving Triton JIT). Two required items have no line in the diff:
[Required] Overlapping in-flight PRs: #20878 is still open and still carries the pre-1c968eb copy of these kernels (its description says it is superseded by this PR), so please close it. Draft #21778 rewrites the same MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE leaf row and adds MoeConfig.tactic id pinning: whichever lands second conflicts, and it interacts with the identity question inline. #19676 speeds up the SM90 grouped DeepGEMM kernel this PR bypasses at decode, so the 32-row threshold and the 53/47 us baseline should be re-checked once it lands.
[Required] The evidence doesn't match the reviewed code: the performance numbers come from the #20878 branch with the pre-fix kernels (approximate division, routing weights in FC2), so please re-measure on this branch; and commit f2d8d9a says "moe_align_block_size also accepts expert counts that are not a power of two", which this diff doesn't touch (that landed on main in #21923), so please drop it from the commit/squash message.
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[Blocker] This line breaks the pre-merge CPU stages. test_cutlass_leaf_run_moe_hands_the_op_its_declarations (tests/unittest/_torch/moe/test_moe_backend.py:6642, cpu_only, collected through l0_cpu.yml -> unittest/_torch/moe with -m cpu_only on CPU-Generic-x86/arm) is parametrized over every CUTLASS leaf that issues the fused op, including DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl. Its fixture _cutlass_leaf_on_cpu (:6575-6599) builds the leaf with __new__ and sets activation_type and the act_* slots but never activation, so self.activation here raises AttributeError before the gate can fall back to the (recorded) fused op. Before this PR the leaf inherited the base run_moe, which never reads activation.
Fix: set leaf.activation = DEFAULT_MOE_ACTIVATION in _cutlass_leaf_on_cpu (already imported in that file). Please don't drop the leaf from the parametrization instead: that test is the only pin of this leaf's use_deepseek_fp8_block_scale=True op flags.
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[Possibly blocking] With ep_size > 1 every (token, expert) pair owned by another rank still goes through FC1/SwiGLU/FC2 here: _local_slot_ids clamps it onto local expert 0 or E-1 and only its weight is zeroed, while the fused op skips non-local experts (moe_kernels.cu:372-381, finalize :1984-1987). The repo's DeepSeek-R1-0528 H200 recipes (examples/configs/database/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528/H200/1k1k_tp8_conc{1,2,4,8}.yaml: TP8, moe_expert_parallel_size: 8, CUTLASS, MTP3, no attention DP, so no comm strategy and 4-32 rows on every rank) take exactly this branch: each rank reads up to two extra experts' FP8 weights per layer (about +88 MB per layer at 4 rows for H=7168, I=2048) and runs up to 8x the GEMM rows at 32 rows, so decode can end up slower than the DeepGEMM path it replaces. The class docstring's "launch only the expert blocks the batch routes to" doesn't hold under EP either.
Measurement that decides it: TPOT and per-MoE-layer time (nsys) for those 1k1k_tp8_conc{1,2,4,8} recipes on 8xH200 at 4/8/16/32 rows, main vs this PR vs this PR gated to ep_size == 1; a TPOT regression beyond run-to-run noise (about 1-2%) would make it a blocker.
Suggested fix: gate the Triton path on self.ep_size == 1 until EP is measured, or drop non-owned pairs instead of clamping them (pass the unclamped offsets, send ids outside [0, E) to the reserved padding bin in _moe_align_small_kernel, mask them in moe_align_block_size, and skip those rows in _moe_topk_sum_kernel with a masked load).
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[Possibly blocking] This makes the Triton path the default decode MoE kernel for every FP8 block-scale model on SM90 (DeepSeek-V3/R1, Qwen3-FP8, Kimi-K2, GLM FP8), and this leaf is the only SM90 FP8 block-scale backend, so users can't opt out short of patching code. The threshold of 32 and the tile table (fused_moe_triton_fp8_block_scale.py:933-938) were measured only on GLM-5.3-Flash TP4/EP1, on the #20878 branch. Not measured: 17-32 rows with top-8 (more than 128 pairs, the 4-launch moe_align_block_size), the 128-wide FC1 tile when num_m_blocks > 32, DeepSeek/Qwen3 K/N shapes, H100/H20, attention-DP + MoE-TP (AllGather), eager decode.
Measurement that decides it: per-MoE-layer GPU time (nsys) and TPOT, fused op vs Triton, CUDA graphs on, at 1/2/4/8/16/24/32 rows for DeepSeek-R1-0528 FP8 (TP8/EP1 and attention-DP + MoE-TP8), Qwen3-235B-A22B-FP8 TP4 and Qwen3-30B-A3B-FP8 TP1 on H200 and H100 (H20 if supported), plus one CUDA-graphs-off run at batch 1-8; any point where Triton is slower than main would make it a blocker unless there is an opt-out.
Suggested fix: add a switch read once at construction (an env var like the ones in cutedsl/grouped_gemm/nvfp4.py:54-63, or a MoeConfig field with the golden-manifest/schema regeneration), and enable the path by default only where the numbers show it wins.
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[Possibly blocking] These kernels compile per batch-size class: NUM_PAIRS_POW2/NUM_SLOTS_POW2/block_n/num_stages are constexprs, and the pinned Triton 3.8 also specializes num_pairs, num_slots and num_valid_tokens on == 1 and % 16. CUDA graphs only cover the captured generation sizes; eager context or mixed steps of at most 32 rows (a short prompt, the tail chunk of a chunked prefill) hit classes no warmup compiled, so the first such step compiles 1-3 kernels inside the served iteration on every rank: a stall of roughly 0.5-2 s per kernel with a cold Triton cache, once per size class and per fresh container. The fused op had no JIT at these sizes.
Measurement that decides it: fresh container (empty Triton cache), DeepSeek-R1-0528 FP8 or GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 on H200 with its reference config (enable_padding: true); after warmup, send single prompts of 3, 5, 9 and 17 tokens and compare the first request's TTFT per size with main; a spike above about 100 ms that main doesn't show would make it a blocker.
Suggested fix: mark the batch-dependent ints do_not_specialize (they only feed comparisons) and prewarm the five NUM_PAIRS_POW2 classes plus one multi-kernel size at load time or in the model warmup.
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[Required] The docstring (so batches on either side of the dispatch threshold get the same numerics, :993-996) and the description ("a batch's result does not depend on whether it takes this path") promise more than the code delivers. Two differences from the fused op remain and account for the "within one BF16 ulp" in 1c968eb: (1) this line computes (dot * a_scale) * b_scale, while DeepGEMM forms a_scale * b_scale first (fp8_gemm_impl.cuh:380-391), which rounds differently for FP32 (non-power-of-two) checkpoint scales such as DeepSeek-V3/R1 and Qwen3-FP8; (2) tl.sigmoid (:705-710) uses Triton's approximate exp and division, while the CUTLASS SiLU is 1/(1+expf(-x)) with IEEE division (FAST_MATH is off).
Both are cheap to align: accumulator += tl.dot(a, b) * (a_scale[:, None] * b_scale[None, :]) and, e.g., tl.math.div_rn(1.0, 1.0 + libdevice.exp(-gate)). Otherwise please reword the docstring and the description to the measured "within one BF16 ulp". The new test can't see this because _make_inputs uses power-of-two (E8M0) scales; a parity check against torch.ops.trtllm.fused_moe with FP32 scales at 1 and 32/33 rows would pin it.
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[Nice to have] With hidden=512 this never runs the K >= 2048 and num_m_blocks <= 32 tile (block_n=64, num_stages=4) that real hidden sizes use at 1-4 tokens; no expert spans several 16-row blocks (the norm at EP > 1); there are no zero weights or non-default output_dtype; the weights have power-of-two scales; and a reference that re-implements the same rounding with a 1e-4 cosine bound would still pass if a BF16 rounding step were dropped. Suggest adding hidden >= 2048 at 1 and 4 tokens, a concentrated-routing case with the production num_m_blocks, a zero-weight case, FP32 scales via per_block_cast_to_fp8, int32 ids, and a parity check against the fused op.
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[Nice to have] Alignment runs no FP8 dot, so requires_cuda (as the existing alignment test uses) fits better than skip_pre_hopper; 8 is a power of two; and the multi_kernel arm repeats test_moe_align_block_size_matches_reference, which checks more. Consider running _moe_align_small through those stronger checks instead (exact expert_ids and per-expert contents, at most 128 pairs, the production num_m_blocks).
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[Nice to have] The quantizers group by _FP8_GROUP_SIZE, but the GEMM indexes their scales with group_k=_BLOCK_SHAPE[0]; tie them together (_FP8_GROUP_SIZE = _BLOCK_SHAPE[0]) so one can't change without the other. _FP8_E4M3_MAX can come from torch.finfo(torch.float8_e4m3fn).max.
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[Nice to have] This repeats fp8_block_scales_triton.py:80-90 and already differs from it (the ep_size == 1 shortcut). Consider one helper next to _local_slot_ids on CutlassFusedMoEBase (e.g. _local_routing(ctx)) used by both leaves.
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[Nice to have]ctx.lora_params is always None for this leaf (the scheduler only passes it to backends with supports_moe_lora, moe_scheduler.py:1146), and the activation_type clause is implied by the isinstance(activation, SwigluActivation) check; consider dropping both (and "no LoRA" in the docs), and binding plan = require_comm_plan(self, ctx) in run_moe to use plan.moe_output here.
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Description
Split out of #20878 (GLM-5.3-Flash FP8 on Hopper) so MoE owners can review it on its own. The other changes are in
#21179 (Python) and #21178 (C++).
On SM90, FP8 block-scale MoE runs through the
fp8_block_scalesCUTLASS leaf (DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImpl).Its grouped DeepGEMM kernel walks every expert group on one persistent CTA per SM. At decode batch sizes most experts are
empty, so the GEMMs stay far from the bandwidth bound.
The leaf's
run_moenow runs Triton FP8-activation kernels when all of these hold: a plain SwiGLU (optionally clamped bya scalar), no expert bias, no LoRA, BF16 input, no caller-provided output buffer and at most 32 tokens per rank.
Otherwise it keeps the fused op. The Triton path consists of:
blocks the batch can occupy;
moe_alignfor up to 128 (token, expert) pairs, and a top-k sum kernel.The Triton path follows the fused op's rounding, so a batch's result does not depend on whether it takes this path:
both FP8 quantizers multiply by
448 / amaxwith correctly rounded division (tl.math.div_rn), the SwiGLU output isrounded to BF16 before its FP8 quantization, and the routing weights scale the BF16 expert outputs in the top-k sum
rather than the FC2 accumulators. On H200 it matches the fused op bit for bit on 1-token inputs and within one BF16 ulp
otherwise.
For MoE owners
rather have the small-batch path as its own identity.
decode sizes. So far it has only been measured on GLM-5.3-Flash (TP4, EP1).
as in the SM120 Triton path, so they are still computed.
Performance
H200, 288 experts, top-8, hidden 4096, 512 intermediate per rank (CUDA graph), full MoE: 4 tokens 64.7 us, 1 token
28.7 us. On the grouped DeepGEMM path the FC1/FC2 GEMMs alone take 53/47 us and 43/36 us.
GLM-5.3-Flash FP8, H200 TP4, MTP3, ISL 13312 / OSL 33, concurrency 1: decode step 14.4 -> 11.7 ms, 184 -> 225.5 output
tok/s per user; GSM8K unchanged. Measured on the #20878 branch (older main); not yet re-measured on this branch.
Test Coverage
test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py(added tol0_h100.yml):1 to 24 tokens; a non-power-of-two expert count.
moe_align(single-program and multi-kernel) for non-power-of-two expert counts.PR Checklist
Dev Engineer Review
DeepgemmCudaHopperFp8BlockScalesImplnow selects a Triton FP8-activation path for eligible BF16 inputs with at most 32 tokens per rank. It falls back to the fused MoE op for unsupported activation, bias, input-scale, LoRA, output-buffer, clamp, or batch-size cases. The new kernels quantize activations per 1×128 group, run FP8 GEMMs, apply SwiGLU, and combine routed outputs.The main review risk is integration coverage. The added numerical tests call the Triton entry point directly; they do not verify dispatch through
run_moe, fallback behavior, or expert-parallel routing. The change also expands the H100 test-list entry from one test to the full module. The new SM90 tests have a capability skip, but the broader CI runtime impact is not established here.No completed CI, build, or test results were supplied. Performance figures and accuracy claims in the objectives are author-reported, not independently verified here.
QA Engineer Review
The unit-test module adds FP8-activation comparisons against an FP32 reference for 1, 4, 16, and 24 tokens, with three SwiGLU clamp modes. It also checks small and multi-kernel MoE alignment with non-power-of-two expert counts. The H100 CI list now selects the full test module rather than one alignment test. The tests cover core kernel behavior, but do not exercise implementation dispatch or its fallback conditions. Coverage verdict: needs follow-up.
Per-File QA Perspective
tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/MOE_DEVELOPER_GUIDE.md— Documents the new dispatch conditions and Triton entry point. Verify that the documented conditions remain aligned with the implementation.tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/cutlass/fp8_block_scales_hopper.py— Adds runtime dispatch and fallback behavior. QA should verify eligible-path selection, fallback conditions, and local expert routing.tensorrt_llm/_torch/moe/fused_moe/fused_moe_triton_fp8_block_scale.py— Adds FP8-activation quantization, GEMM, alignment, and top-k combination kernels. The new path is tested by the modified unit-test file; dispatch-level behavior is not covered there.tests/unittest/_torch/moe/fused_moe/test_triton_fp8_block_scale.py— Adds alignment and FP8-activation reference tests. The module is listed intests/integration/test_lists/test-db/l0_h100.ymlfor CI; no manual-QA list change is shown.tests/integration/test_lists/test-db/l0_h100.yml— Replaces the single alignment test selector with the full test module. This increases the H100 CI selection; the runtime impact is not available.