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MagneticDuck commented on 4 Jun openstenoproject/plover#400
MagneticDuck commented on 5 Jun openstenoproject/plover#400
nimble0 commented on 15 Jun openstenoproject/plover#400
MagneticDuck commented on 17 Jun openstenoproject/plover#400 The crwth (/ˈkruːθ/ or /ˈkrʊθ/), also called a crowd or rote, is a bowed lyre, a type of stringed instrument, associated particularly with Welsh music and with medieval folk music of England, now archaic but once widely played in Europe. — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crwth
joezeng commented on 17 Jun openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment) "KPWR*": "British Columbia" (mnemonic here is "BC" on the left side) "A*B": "Alberta" (may conflict with lots of entries that otherwise begin with A*B) "S*BG": "Saskatchewan" (this one conflicts with South Carolina; one of them would have to be assigned the double stroke) "SK*": "Saskatchewan" (for "SK" more directly; I missed this one the first time around) "PH*B": "Manitoba" (for "MB") "O*PBT": "Ontario" (for "Ont."; "O*N" is mapped to the "-on" suffix, but "O*NT" is mapped to "on the" which is already "O-NT" without the star) "A*UPB": "Ontario" (for "ON" but using the "AU" as a substitute) "KW*BG": "Quebec" (for "QC") "TPH*B": "New Brunswick" (for "NB") "TPH*S": "Nova Scotia" (for "NS") "P*E": "Prince Edward Island" (for "PE"; "P*EU" is taken by "pi") "PAO*E": "P.E.I." (because enough people pronounce it that way) "TPH*F": "Newfoundland" (for "NF") "TPH-FLD": "Newfoundland" (for "Nfld.") "TPH*FL": "Newfoundland and Labrador" (for "NF"+"L") "TPH*L": "Newfoundland and Labrador" (for "NL")
amikumanto commented on 18 Jun openstenoproject/plover#400 malicious stroke: FLIKT → conflict, but FLIKT/-D → complicated
MagneticDuck commented on 19 Jun • add the FR-as-m trick to some words: "KAFRL": "camel" "HAFRP/SHAOEUR": "Hampshire" "NU/HAFRP/SHAOEUR": "New Hampshire" "HAFRP/*ER": "hamper" "OE/HREUFRP/KWRAD": "Olympiad" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
joezeng commented on 20 Jun "PHROFR/SR*ERGS": "weekly-v4.0.0.dev8+8.ge062cda6" "PHROFR/STKR*ERGS": "4.0.0.20180620" And then change it every time you update either Plover itself or the dictionary. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
MagneticDuck commented on 21 Jun • "PHEL/TPHROUS": "mellifluous" "PHEL/TPHRAOUS": "mellifluous" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment) mellifluous (comparative more mellifluous, superlative most mellifluous) 1. Flowing like honey. 2. Sweet, smooth and musical; pleasant to hear (generally used of a person's voice, tone or writing style). — https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mellifluous
Remove "SKP/HREUR/SEUFT": "lyricist", which would suggest the phrase
"and lyricist".
Add phonetic brief "HREUR/SEUFT".
Add "HREUR/SA*EFT": "lyricist", consistent with "SA*EFT": "{^icist}".
Add "HREURS/EUFT": "lyricist", consistent with "EUFT": "{^ist}".
amikumanto commented on 21 Jun
Add:
"HREUR/SEUFT": "lyricist"
Remove:
"SKP/HREUR/SEUFT": "lyricist"
openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Add "TKPWRO*EUPB": "groyne" as a starred version of "TKPWROEUPB": "groin" to nouns. Remove "TKPWRO*EUPB": "growth hormone" now used as "groyne" from dict.json. Add new briefs for "TKPWRO*ERPL" (more consistent with "HO*ERPL": "hormone") and "TKPWRO*UPB" to briefs. Remove "-FT/HRO*EPB": "of the hormone", and "-T/HRO*EPB": "the hormone", which conflict with "HRO*EPB": "lone". Sootymatt commented on 21 Jun Please add: "TKPWRO*EUPB": "groyne" It is a type of rock wall that prevents erosion. openstenoproject/plover#400
amikumanto commented on 23 Jun For consistency sake, REF and R*EF should be swapped, and reflog should be switched to be written with REF instead of R*EF: "R*EF": "rev", "REF": "ref", "REF/HROG": "reflog", Because if you look at the distribution of default entries in the dictionary that start with those strokes, REF has a pretty even split between ref- and rev- words, but besides reflog literally every R*EF word starts with rev- Some more work could definitely be definitely be done with regard to the consistency of these two strokes in the future - some R*EF words specifically seem to be for disambiguation (as in the case of R*EF/RAOE → reverie versus REF/RAOE → referee) or just for redundancy (like with how REF/HRAEUGS and R*EF/HRAEUGS both map to revelation) but there are also some words that can only be written with R*EF even though they create no conflicts (such as R*EF/KABL → revocable) so this is definitely something that should be revisited later (and I probably will unless someone else does it first) openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
tkpwaeub commented on 23 Jun "SKHREFL" : "successfully" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Greygal commented on 27 Jun • Think I've come across an orthography rule issue, less a dictionary issue. mimic: PHEUPL/EUBG PHEUPL/PHEUBG But when you try to add a third stroke for the -ED ending you get: mimicced <<< this is wrong, should be mimicked Other endings seem to work properly: mimicking mimics mimicker openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
joezeng commented on 27 Jun Here's a list of other verbs to check for the same thing: http://wordtoolbox.com/verbs-ending-with/c Specifically, the 2-syllable words ending in an unstressed "ic": mimicked, panicked, frolicked, picnicked, bivouacked, shellacked, trafficked The 1-syllable words in that list should not have the "k" applied to them: arced, sicced, synced openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
joezeng commented on 28 Jun • "result": RAOE/SULT "result": RAOE/S*ULT To be more consistent in using RAOE as an alternative "re-" prefix for words with multiple-stroke definitions. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
joezeng commented on 9 Jul “ABGS”: action “AEBGS”: axe “A*BGS”: axe Right now AEBGS is “acute coronary syndromes”, which is definitely a work brief that shouldn’t exist in the main dictionary. Also, “action” strikes me as the more common word by a long shot, so I think it should get the standard stroke. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Willem3141 commented on 23 Jul As discussed on Discord, I'd suggest "TKE/PHOET/SRAEUT": "demotivate" because right now that translates to "demote SRAEUT" instead. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
stenoknight commented on 26 Jul Rifle/rifles and rival/rivals are crossmatched; one has the asterisk in singular and another in plural. We should swap them to make them consistent. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
JeremyGG commented on 26 Jul For "figurative", TPEUG/TEUF should be added. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
SeaLiteral commented on 30 Jul Remove SKO SO* THE for "so they" because I can't see how that stroke would be useful. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
SeaLiteral commented on 30 Jul ⋮ And maybe change KWR-S to "why is" or at least remove the space before the comma. Also, I think a better way to write "s, " would be -RBGSZ. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
SeaLiteral commented on 30 Jul ⋮ Possible additions: "A/STPALT": "asphalt", "SHAOR": "ashore", "TUPL": " tuple" You probably also want to change either TUPLZ or TUPLS to the plural form "tuples". And then TUPL/-S needs to go too. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Mostly Roald Dahl phrases and flummer: to get around (a person) especially by coaxing or flattery. MagneticDuck commented on 30 Jul openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Add "HUB/PWARD": "hubbard" instead of "HUB/BARD": "hubbard", which uses pseudo-steno left-hand B instead of PW. Did not remove explicit entries for visits, serrated, lights or rating. Did not add -TD-as-ded briefs: - "AEUTD": "aided", - "AUFR/KROUTD": "overcrowded", - "EBGS/KHRAOUTD": "excluded", - "SPWEPBTD": "intended", - "KHRAOEUTD": "collided", - "PHAOEUPBTD": "minded", - "RARTD": "regarded", - "SKETD": "scheduled", - "SOUPBTD": "sounded", - "SPOPBTD": "responded", - "SR*ELTD": "veldt", Did not add outlines missing B in "n" sounds: - "AFRB/KWRAPS": "ambiance", - "APL/KWRAPS": "ambiance", Did not add these: - "ART/KHRAEUTD": "articulated", — could conflict with something like 'thou art calculated'? - "PREUPB/SEPS": "princeps", — could conflict with something like "she in principle accepts"? MagneticDuck commented on 31 Jul • okay but now seriously the following consists of (hopefully) unopinioned vocabulary additions and support for the -TD-as-ded pattern to tuck -ed endings on some words. "A/HRAOEPBLGS": "allegiance" "A/POEUPBTD": "appointed" "A/RAEUD": "arrayed" "SROEUTD": "voided" (also for avoided) "A/SROEUTD": "avoided" "A/TAG": "attacking" remove explicit entry for testing and tested (now we can fold -G on attesting and attested) "A/TEPBTD": "attended" "A/TOEPLT": "atonement" "A/TPEURPLGS": "affirmation" (not my usual stroke, but makes sense to have in) "A/TPHAOEULT": "annihilate" remove explicit entry for visits (now we can fold -S on activists) "ABL/TROS": "albatross" "AEUTD": "aided" "A/SRAPBT/TKPWARD": "avant-garde" "AFPBT/TKPWARD": "avant-garde" "A*FPBT/TKPWARD": "avant-garde" "AFRB/KWRAPS": "ambiance" "APL/KWRAPS": "ambiance" "AFRP/TPAOEU": "amplify" "AFRPL/TPAOEU": "amplify" "AFRPB/AEUPBG/*L": "archangel" "AG/SRAEUTD": "aggravated" (or, use SRAEUT for serrate and remove the explicit entry for serrated. I prefer adding this entry for aggravated) "AL/KPAPBD/KWRA": "Alexandria" "ALT/TEUF": "alternative" (perhaps someone will also find my pseudo-brief useful) "AO*EULD": "idle" "AOEULDZ": "islands" "AOURBG/KWRA": "eureka" (a suggestion. this is my way of confronting this strange word) "APB/HRO*G": "analogue" "APB/TKAOEUDZ": "anodized" "APBD/KWREU/TKAOU/TPRAEUPB": "Andy Dufresne" "APBLGT": "agility" (for those who "lean right", as in ARPBD for around and similar) "ARPT": "apart" "ART/KHRAEUTD": "articulated" "ART/PWAOUTS": "attributes" (or remove explicit entry for beauties) "AUFR/KROUTD": "overcrowded" "EBGS/KHRAOUTD": "excluded" "EBGS/SEPB/TREUFT": "eccentricity" "EBGS/SEPB/TR*EUS": "eccentrist" (for people who, in conversation, occasionally can't think of the noun "eccentric") "EBGS/EUG/WOUS": "exiguous" "EBGT/-BL": "equitable" (for those who don't know steno-school KWET for equity) "EFR/SREFPBS": "effervescence" "EPB/TEPBGS": "intention" (for people who forget how to spell when the going gets hard) "EPL/PWROEUD/*ERG": "embroidering" (because embroid is not a root) "EPLS/REU": "emissary" "ROEUR/KWROUS": "erroneously" "ER/ROEPBS/HREU": "erroneously" "ER/TKPWOPL/TER": "ergometer" "EUFRP/SRAOEUS": "improvise" "EUFRP/SRAOEUZ": "improvise" "EUPB/EBGS/PHREUFT": "inexplicit" (or remove misstroke EUPB/EBGS for index) "EUPB/KAOPBLT": "inconsistently" "EUPB/ST*EUPBGT": "instinct" "STPHAPBLT": "instantly" "SPWEPBTD": "intended" "EUT/TEUF": "iterative" "EURT/TEUF": "iterative" "HAEPBS": "happiness" "HAEUPBS": "heinous" "HAPL/PWRURG": "hamburger" "HAS/KWREPBD": "hacienda" "HAS/KWREPB/TKA": "hacienda" "HEBGS/TKPWOPBL": "hexagonal" "HR*EUL/PUT": "Lilliput" "HRA/TEBGS": "LaTeX" (for people who pronounce it correctly) "HRAOER/K-L": "lyrical" (common enough for one to slop a little and forget to use the root word) remove explicit entry for lights (now we can fold -S on eletrolytes) remove explicit entry for rating (now we can fold -G on liberating) "HUB/ARD": "hubbard" "HUB/BARD": "hubbard" "K-BLT": "accountability" "KABG/TPOEUPB": "cacophony" "KAUPB/TAEUPBLG/KWROPB": "contagion" "KAUPB/WHRAOUGS": "convolution" "KAUPB/WHRAOUT": "convolute" "KAURPBT/SRER/SEU": "controversy" (for those without the brief but with the contra prefix) "KAURPBT/SRERS/KWREU": "controversy" (for those without the brief but with the contra prefix) "KEP/HRER": "Kepler" "KEPB": "ken" (keep asterisked version for the proper name Ken) "KHAOER/HRAOEGD": "cheerleading" "KHAOES/PWRURG": "cheeseburger" "KHAOEZ/PWRURG": "cheeseburger" "KHAOUZ": "chews" "KHRAOEUTD": "collided" "KHRAT/*ERG": "clattering" "KHREUFP": "cliche" (orthographic) "KHROR/PHRAFT": "chloroplast" "KOEUPL/PWRA": "Coimbra" "KPAPLGS": "examination" (alternate brief) "KWAOEPB/HRAOEPB": "Queen Leene" (a pleasant surprise designed for TypeRacer aficionados) "O*EUPBD/KREUPBL": "endocrinal" "O*EUT/PHEU": "autonomy" "O*URZ": "ourselves" (common enough to concede a misstroke on the -SZ; or, for certain lazy people) "OEB/KWREU/WAPB": "Obi-Wan" "OFT/HRER": "ostler" "P-RBT": "punishment" "PAELG": "pealing" "PAOEPB/KHRAD": "piña colada" "PEPBT/TOPB/EUBG": "pentatonic" "PEPBT/TO*PBG": "pentatonic" "PEPBT/TOPBG": "pentatonic" "PER/SKWRA": "Pera" "PHAERBGSZ": "matrices" "PHAOER/K-L": "miracle" "PHAOEUPBTD": "minded" "PHARPBLG/SA*EUGS": "marginalization" (#savethestrokes) "PHERPLZ": "memorize" "PHER/KAPBT/HREUFT": "mercantilist" "PHER/KAPBT/HREUFPL": "mercantilism" "PHO*FR/KWRUS": "Morpheus" "PHOPBT/TPHOUS": "monotonous" (#strokelivesmatter) "PHOR/ROE": "morrow" (save asterisked version for Morrow) "PHO*ET": "mote" "PHROPB/EUBG": "moronic" "POEUL/HAOERL": "polyhedral" "PREP/TAEUGS": "precipitation" "PREUPB/SEPS": "princeps" "PRO/POEFL": "proposal" (reasonable alternative to the brief) "PRO/TOS": "Protoss" (it already translates, might as well capitalize) "PUBG/KA": "pukka" "RARTD": "regarded" "S*EUG/WOUS": "exiguous" "SHAU/SHA*PBG": "Shawshank" "SKETD": "scheduled" "SORPL/SAULT": "somersault" "SOUPBTD": "sounded" "SPAOED/R*UPBG": "speedrunning" "SPAOED/R*UPB": "speedrun" "SPOPBTD": "responded" "SR*ELTD": "veldt" "SR*EUPL/KWRUPL": "Vimium" "SR-RB": "vanish" "TPAU/RAEU": "foray" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
MagneticDuck commented on 31 Jul • okay but now seriously the following consists of (hopefully) unopinioned vocabulary additions and support for the -TD-as-ded pattern to tuck -ed endings on some words. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
MagneticDuck commented on 10 Aug •
KWAOEUPB is bound to the {^quine} suffix, but quine is also a word.
suggestions:
"KWAO*EUPB": "quine"
"KWAO*EUPB/KWAO*EUPB": "KWAO*EUPB/KWAO*EUPB"
finally, remove "STOEUPB/TAOEUP", avoiding quine-like typos like
"stenotypos are great"
openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
SeaLiteral commented on 16 Aug • Somme suggestions: "PRO/TPERBL": "professional", (some might try to write it like this) "PAEUFT/-L": "pastel", (phonetic) "KWRURPBD": "I understand", (analogy with briefs like KWR-PB, KWR-PL, KWROEURPBD and several others) "STWARTS": "starts with", (start with is already STWART) "TPHEPBL": "in general", (new brief) And remove: "KARPB/SRAL/-F": "carnival", (conflict with carnival of) "SKEURB/WARB/ER": "dishwasher", (unlikely misstroke) openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
JeremyGG commented on 19 Aug "TKAOEURP": "diaper" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
This commit does not add briefs folding "of" SeaLiteral commented on 19 Aug PR #1003 sort of made me want the following briefs: "SPHAOBG": "mistook", (for consistency with SPHAEUBG for "mistake") "TPAUFL": "fall of", "TPAUFLT": "fall of the", "SKPROEUD": "android", (with SKP for and) "SPWROEUD": "Android", (I get entroid isn't the right pronunciation, but easy enough to remember) "RAOEUFT": "right of", "RAOEUFTS": "rights of", Maybe I'm folding in "of" a bit too often, speaking of which: "SPAOEF": "speak of", (this used to be "percieve", so) "SPAO*EF": "percieve", (fix that with an asterisk) "SPAOEFG": "speaking of", (this used to be "percieving", so) "SPAO*EFG": "percieving", (fix that with an asterisk) openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Fixes spelling of "perceive" below. SeaLiteral commented on 19 Aug PR #1003 sort of made me want the following briefs: "SPHAOBG": "mistook", (for consistency with SPHAEUBG for "mistake") "TPAUFL": "fall of", "TPAUFLT": "fall of the", "SKPROEUD": "android", (with SKP for and) "SPWROEUD": "Android", (I get entroid isn't the right pronunciation, but easy enough to remember) "RAOEUFT": "right of", "RAOEUFTS": "rights of", Maybe I'm folding in "of" a bit too often, speaking of which: "SPAOEF": "speak of", (this used to be "percieve", so) "SPAO*EF": "percieve", (fix that with an asterisk) "SPAOEFG": "speaking of", (this used to be "percieving", so) "SPAO*EFG": "percieving", (fix that with an asterisk) openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
tkpwaeub commented on 22 Aug "KW*ELT": "commonwealth" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
The number bar key # as well as literal numerals is redundant. "240" or "#THO" would be enough. 240 works without any entry anyway. KeyboardFire commented on 24 Aug "240": "240" seems a bit unnecessary. Also, not sure what's going on with "SOFT/HRUF": "SOFT/HRUF"... openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
0e4ef622 commented on 31 Aug Remove "TOED/AS": "today's" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
See also: Prospect Lefferts Gardens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospect_Lefferts_Gardens tkpwaeub commented on 2 Sep "PROS/PEBGT/HREF/TPERTS": "Prospect Lefferts" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
KeyboardFire commented on 5 Sep "PHET/TPOER": "no", strikes me as... odd. Perhaps change this to "metaphor"? "TPHOEU": "annoy", by analogy with "TPHOEUG": "annoying", (currently "noy," which isn't a word AFAIK) "TK-PBGS": "definition", by analogy with "TK-PB": "define", openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
JeremyGG commented on 21 Sep
"TPHEBG/RO/PHAPB/SER": "necromancer"
to be consistent with the {necro^} definition, TPHEBG/RO
openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
morinted commented on 21 Sep
And NEK/RO/MANS/*ER if it's not already there.
openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Willem3141 commented on 29 Sep Suggest to remove: "THA/AOUGS": "that use" As I don't see the point (is this a misstroke?) and this conflicts in a sentence like we are trying to do that using the following method. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
joezeng commented on 3 Oct "OERDZ": "other side" It's currently mapped to O*ERDZ, and there's no reason it shouldn't be mapped to the unstarred version too. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
JeremyGG commented 27 days ago Remove: "PRAOEUT/-S": "priorities" It's a misstroke (it should be PRAOEURT/-S but really just remove it) that clashes with PRAOEUT for parasite, turning the expected output of parasites into priorities openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Willem3141 commented 27 days ago • Suggest to add: "KAUPB/TPHEBGT": "connect" We already have KOPB/TPHEBGT and the brief KEBGT for connect, but you should be able to use the prefix stroke KAUPB as well, I think. Edit: Similarly: "KAUPB/SERPB": "concern" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
amikumanto commented 10 days ago Remove: "W/STAPB": "withstand", "W/STAPB/HREU": "with Stanley", "STAPB/HRAOE": "Stanley", The first creates word boundary errors for the phrase "with Stan", the second is just there to fix that error for the name Stanley (I guess for some reason Stanley is a more important name than Stan?), and the third creates a word boundary error with Stan Lee, even though the more standard way to right Stanley STAPB/LEU is also in the default dictionary openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
tkpwaeub commented Add: "SRELT/SPH*ERZ": "Weltschmerz" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
JeremyGG commented
remove "HRO*ET/TO": "loath {^ ^} to". Weird entry.
openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
JeremyGG A/HROEU should map to "alloy", not "Allow" (note the caps) openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Willem3141 commented 7 days ago Suggest to add: "PRO/TKPWRES": "progress" Motivation: Besides the brief PROG, we already have the phonetic outlines PROG/RES, PROG/RESZ and PRO/TKPWRESZ, but PRO/TKPWRES (which would be the natural outline for me) is missing. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
JeremyGG commented "STKPRAT": "desperate" "STKPRALT": "desperately" and then maybe also, because they are not used for anything else: "TKPRAT": "desperate" "TKPRALT": "desperately" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
Add condensed stroke for "upcoming" using prefix stroke AUP for up^ morinted UP/KOPLG for "upcoming" should be removed. AUP/KOPLG could be added as an explicit entry for anyone who's looking it up. > If you only end up coming back to us after exhausting all other options, we won't take you in. openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
The new stroke uses the "A" prefix for a^. amikumanto remove "AS/SORT": "assort" since it causes a word boundary error with "as sort", as in "I use it as sort of a generic modifier" openstenoproject/plover#400 (comment)
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This PR adds Plover dictionary updates from 4 Jun 2018 for: #1