Number Sign and Grave Accent procedures not functional without rename as of ucblogo 6.2.5

[Loud-Cat]

I've been using ucblogo 6.2.4 on my old laptop, which is running Ubuntu 24.04, and it works just fine, but my new laptop, using Linux Mint 22.3, I seem to have some trouble using the # and cascade procedures. I tried using the latest version from the apt repositories, and building versions 6.2.4 and 6.2.5 from source, yet I always run into the same issue: I don't know how to # and I don't know how to `` in cascade. After further testing, it seems the real issue with cascade is actually the backtick substitution (`) in general, but the situation is still frustrating.

Here is the output on Linux Mint:

And here is the expected output on Ubuntu:

I'd be happy to provide more information if necessary.

[Loud-Cat]

After further comparison between the two installations, I have determined that the cause of the problem was an incomplete logolib directory! Apparently, the version I installed on Linux Mint was missing the definitions for the poundsign and backtick procedures.

Here is the precise differences between the two, where logolib was copied from Ubuntu and logolib-bak was what I temporarily renamed my logolib directory on Linux Mint:

$ diff logolib logolib-bak
Only in logolib: #
Only in logolib: `
Only in logolib-bak: Makefile
Only in logolib-bak: Makefile.am
Only in logolib-bak: Makefile.in
Only in logolib-bak: RENAME-GRAVE-ACCENT
Only in logolib-bak: RENAME-NUMBER-SIGN

Copying the entire logolib directory seems to fix the issue in this post, but I'm curious if there are more differences. I'll compare the whole installations later.

[Loud-Cat]

Looks like this commit (1463eed) renamed the two files to RENAME-NUMBER-SIGN and RENAME-GRAVE-ACCENT, respectively. I'm not sure exactly how the build system works, but it seems like that caused the missing procedure definitions. Maybe they were supposed to be renamed after being built?

[brianharvey]

Yeah, some system, Windows I think, didn't like those punctuation characters as filenames, so we used substitute names in the zip files and renamed the files to match the procedure names at the last minute.

[Loud-Cat]

Yeah, some system, Windows I think, didn't like those punctuation characters as filenames, so we used substitute names in the zip files and renamed the files to match the procedure names at the last minute.

That makes sense, but it would have been nice to have that information when building it. Glad it's solved, at least!

[dmalec]

There's some history on those two characters and the build, this isn't the first time there's been challenges:

• Issue Backtick not working on Windows #138
• Pull Request: ISSUE-138: Rename special character commands during Windows build #147
• Issue Backtick not working??? #117
• Pull Request: ISSUE-117: Correctly rename command files during OSX build #119

The Mac build handles it here:
https://github.com/jrincayc/ucblogo-code/blob/master/Makefile.am#L133-L134

The Windows build handles it here:
https://github.com/jrincayc/ucblogo-code/blob/master/makefile.msys#L82-L83

And I'll admit I'm lost on where the Linux build would be handling it... which is making me wonder when this last worked on Linux...

[Loud-Cat]

I had only been using it for a year or two, but until last Christmas, ucblogo 6.2.4 was working just fine (and still is) on Ubuntu for me, and after renaming the "fixed" logolib files, I got 6.2.5 working properly on Linux Mint. The current version is in the apt repositories, but it doesn't have the fixed file names, so it only partially works out of the box (like my screenshot earlier). Maybe include something in the build instructions about it? On a related note, it would be nice to know what "and other dependencies" means in the instructions on the README.