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.agents/specs/qwen38-27b-bf16-gate.md carried an open question under ## Owed: when the c8 vLLM worker died on 2026-08-19, did the HOST reboot or was only the k3s pod lost? The artifacts could not tell, and the recorded way to settle it was to read /proc/sys/kernel/random/boot_id inside a later dgx:gpu0 job.

That measurement is taken. rc job 97cf3e63-e4a4-4506-bde7-f19f19be3bbf reported BOOT_ID_NOW=64c495a3-… against the benchmark's 3fd9745a-….

Two claims, deliberately at different strengths

OBSERVED, and certain. A kernel reboot happened. boot_id is kernel-wide and regenerated per boot; it changed. A pod restart, container teardown or k3s restart cannot produce that. The disjunction is retired: it was not merely a lost pod.

DERIVED, and conditional. UPTIME_S=38868 was read from /proc/uptime inside the leased worker, so it is the host's only if that worker does not virtualize /proc. lxcfs virtualizes /proc/uptime and cannot touch boot_id, which is exactly why the observed half does not inherit the caveat. Every surface that states the timing states the condition beside it.

The bound is one-sided: 21:29:35.606816Z − 10:47:48 = 10:41:47.6Z, and that mtime is when the log's final line landed, so UPTIME_S was read strictly before it. An earlier draft recorded an interval [10:41:47, 10:42:14] and called the narrowing a rigor improvement; it was wrong in both directions, because a tighter upper bound exists and no lower bound was measured at all. It now reads at or before 2026-08-19T10:41:47.6Z.

What is NOT claimed

That the reboot killed the worker. Timing, the recorded 9,738 → 6,261 MB descent and this box's documented reboot-instead-of-OOM habit are all consistent with it. Consistency is not a trace.

Two discrepancies are recorded open rather than resolved:

  • The 11:26 timeline row is a file mtime, not liveness. No content anywhere in out/vllm-20260819T095758Z/ is later than 10:25:07; job.log and vllm-server-c8.log carry mtimes 0.47 ms apart, which is one bulk event, not two processes writing. The timeline now carries a Strength column and that row reads mtime only.
  • .agents/environment.md:875 records a prior reboot on this box with a journalctl --list-boots pair of ~3m40s downtime. Applied here, a 10:41:47 boot puts the box going down ~10:38 — thirteen minutes after every writer stopped. That does not fit a simple crash-at-10:25:28 story.

What it does sharpen

The watchdog conclusion, scoped correctly. A userspace sampler dies with the kernel, so there is no floor and no cadence at which it reports a reboot — a harder statement than "2 s is too coarse". It is scoped to the reboot class, not to the c8 denominator, because strengthening that specific conclusion would require the causal link that is not established.

.agents/environment.md gains a bullet: the two reboots this file already records for this machine are a ctest -j 4 and an oracle load, both pre-/health. This one is post-/health under vLLM's production graphed configuration, so "survived startup" is not a safe state.

The c8 denominator remains NOT MEASURABLE and the c1 pairing remains PAIRING_VERDICT=DISCARD. This finding explains the shape of that absence; it does not fill it, and no ratio is derived or restored.

Keyed-record merge

origin/main advanced to c805ccbb3 mid-review, touching three of the five records. Per §Records the clean automatic three-way was discarded for all three, the target's version taken whole, and the scoped edit re-applied from a patch cut between two immutable SHAs. Verified by comparing the staged tree against the pinned target over the whole repository: the only differing files are the five this row owns, so every unowned key is byte-for-byte the target's. The incoming W0e content survives in all three.

Records only — no product code, no threshold, no lifecycle state moved.

Checkers, real exit codes, unpiped, on c805ccbb3..HEAD: check-commit-trailers 0, check-commit-style 0, check-doc-checkpoint 0, check-now-current 0, check-issue-index-append-only 0, check-agent-record 0, check-public-doc-tables 0, check-env-doc 0, check-symbol-anchors 0, check-pr-size 0. agent-preflight.sh's sole red is test_cpu_x86_llamacpp_floor (#618), controlled against an unmodified clone of the pinned target at the same load: base rc=1 with 2 failures, this head rc=1 with 1 — base-red under identical conditions, and this change touches five markdown records and no code.

Refs #915.

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… and the boot TIME is derived rather than observed (#915)

The spec carried one question as owed: whether the host rebooted or only the
k3s pod was lost when the c8 vLLM worker died on 2026-08-19. An `rc run` job on
`dgx:gpu0` (`97cf3e63-e4a4-4506-bde7-f19f19be3bbf`) settles it.
`/proc/sys/kernel/random/boot_id` read `64c495a3-8c9c-4b20-8496-a97efda0e332`
against the benchmark's `3fd9745a-d25a-426c-ba3c-97c958a85515`. That identity is
kernel-wide and regenerated per boot, so the machine rebooted and no pod
restart, container teardown or `k3s` restart can produce that value.

Two claims of different strength land, and every surface keeps them apart. The
reboot is OBSERVED. The ~10:42Z boot time is DERIVED from `UPTIME_S=38868` read
inside the `rc` worker, so it holds only if that worker does not virtualize
`/proc` — `lxcfs` virtualizes `/proc/uptime` and cannot touch `boot_id`, which
is exactly why the first half does not inherit the caveat. The read instant is
itself known only to about half a minute, so the derived boot is an interval of
10:41:47-10:42:14Z rather than a timestamp. It falls inside the c8 window, 17
minutes after the server answered `/health` and 16 after the last memory sample.

That the reboot KILLED the worker is NOT claimed. The timing, the recorded
9,738 to 6,261 MB descent and this box's documented habit of rebooting instead
of OOM-killing are all consistent with it, and consistency is not a trace.

It hardens the campaign's watchdog conclusion instead of softening it: a
userspace sampler dies with the kernel, so there is no floor and no cadence at
which it reports this event, which is a harder statement than "2 seconds is too
coarse". No number moves. The c8 denominator is still NOT MEASURABLE, the c1
pairing is still `PAIRING_VERDICT=DISCARD`, and no ratio is derived or restored
from either; the finding explains the shape of the absence rather than filling
it.

`.agents/environment.md` gains the fleet-shaped half, because the two reboot
bullets it already carries are a `ctest -j 4` and an oracle LOAD, and this one
happened after the server was healthy and serving-ready. It also records why
`boot_id` is the only instrument a leased job has: a pod has no `uptime` reset
and no `journalctl --list-boots` to read.

`docs/STATUS.md` and `docs/BENCHMARKS.md` both published the open question, so
both are owed. `scripts/check-doc-checkpoint.py --staged` proves it rather than
assuming it: with the two surfaces dropped from the index it exits 1 naming
them, and exits 0 with them.

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…nd re-apply the boot_id edit (#915)

`origin/main` moved to 7265cea while this branch was in review, and two of
the new commits touch the same three keyed records this branch edits:
`.agents/benchmark-record.md`, `docs/STATUS.md` and `docs/BENCHMARKS.md`.
`git merge` reported a clean automatic three-way on all three. AGENTS.md
§Records forbids accepting that result for a keyed record, so it was discarded.

Each of the three was reset to the complete `origin/main` version with
`git checkout origin/main -- <path>`, verified byte-identical to the target
branch (`git diff --quiet origin/main -- <path>` for each), and the scoped edit
was then re-applied from a patch cut against this branch's own base
(`git diff 96ed834 7f2cc3a09`). It applied at offsets +45, +1 and +12 lines
with no fuzz.

The verification is that `git diff origin/main` over the three files now
contains exactly the four hunks of that patch, with identical context, added
and removed lines, and nothing else. Every key this branch does not own is
therefore byte-for-byte the target-branch version, because the only delta from
the target branch IS the scoped edit.

`.agents/environment.md` and `.agents/specs/qwen38-27b-bf16-gate.md` were not
touched by either incoming commit, so no reconciliation was owed for them.

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…oot is not tied to the worker (#915)

A fresh review returned FAIL on the boot_id record. The epistemics were right in
the abstract and wrong in seven concrete strings: causation was disclaimed in
three places and then asserted in four, and the derived read-instant interval
pointed the wrong way.

CAUSATION. `.agents/specs/qwen38-27b-bf16-gate.md` said in its headline that the
worker loss "is now known to have been a HOST REBOOT", while its own `## Outcome`
said "NOT established: that the reboot killed the worker". `boot_id` observes
that a reboot happened somewhere in an ~11.2 h span. It does not observe that the
worker loss WAS that reboot. `.agents/benchmark-record.md` said the settled
reboot makes the c8-denominator watchdog conclusion "stronger", which needs the
same untraced link; the watchdog claim is now scoped to the REBOOT CLASS, where a
userspace sampler dying with the kernel is true on its own and needs no link.
`docs/STATUS.md` disclaimed the causation and then wrote "no sampling watchdog
could have caught it" one clause later. Each is restated at observed strength.

THE BOUND. `bootid.log`'s mtime is when its FINAL line (`MemAvailable_MB`)
landed, so `UPTIME_S` was read strictly before it. 21:29:35 was therefore an
UPPER bound on the read instant, not a midpoint, and 21:30:02 is later still.
Both endpoints of the recorded 10:41:47-10:42:14Z interval sit at or after the
true read instant, so the interval excluded the whole region the value occupies.
Re-derived: 38868 s is 10:47:48, and 21:29:35.606816Z minus that is
10:41:47.606816Z. The honest form is one-sided — the boot is at or before
10:41:47.6Z, with no lower bound stated, because one would have to come from when
the probe started rather than from the log's content. The "no tighter figure is
honest/supportable" sentences are deleted: a tighter upper bound exists and the
lower bound is unbounded, so they were wrong in both directions.

THE 11:26 ROW. It was recorded as `11:26:00`, "the job's last write". The actual
mtimes are 11:26:32.079517600 (`job.log`) and 11:26:32.079047100
(`vllm-server-c8.log`), 0.47 ms apart, which is one bulk event and not a job
writing. No content in `out/vllm-20260819T095758Z/` is later than 10:25:07 or
10:25:26. The two readings are incompatible and neither is established, so the
row now carries a strength column reading `mtime only`. A second discrepancy is
surfaced rather than resolved: the only `journalctl --list-boots` downtime this
repository has measured on this box is ~3m40s, which applied here puts the box
going down around 10:38, thirteen minutes after every writer had stopped.

SMALLER. "During the untimed warmup" now modifies the worker LOSS, which is what
it is true of, and not "came back up". The `environment.md` heading no longer
states derived content at observed strength. `docs/BENCHMARKS.md` was the one
surface of five that labelled the strength without stating the condition, and now
states it. The read-back block is verbatim, sha256 25b88023, including the two
`rc:` lines and the full `VERDICT=` line. The `lxcfs` caveat gains the argument
that a container-scoped `/proc/uptime` would read the pod's age, and 10.8 h is
not one; the caveat stands. The cross-clock skew between the local log mtime and
`dgx`'s timestamps is stated as unpinned and unquantified. The owed item now
proposes an `rc`-run `journalctl --list-boots`, which the lease can actually see,
instead of "a host boot known independently", which it cannot.

No number moves. The c8 denominator is still NOT MEASURABLE, the c1 pairing is
still `PAIRING_VERDICT=DISCARD`, no ratio is derived or restored, and the
observed half is not weakened: a kernel reboot did happen and it was not a lost
pod.

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…md` whole and re-apply the scoped edit (#915)

`origin/main` moved again during the repair, to 727efb3, and that commit edits
`.agents/environment.md` — the fifth of the five records this branch touches, and
the one the previous merge did not have to reconcile.

The same rule applies, so the same procedure was used. `git merge` reported a
clean automatic three-way, and AGENTS.md §Records forbids accepting that for a
keyed record. The file was reset to the complete `origin/main` version, verified
byte-identical to it, and the scoped edit re-applied from a patch cut against
this branch's base (`git diff 96ed834 HEAD -- .agents/environment.md`). One
hunk, applied at offset +4 lines with no fuzz.

Verified the same way as before: `git diff origin/main` over all five records now
contains exactly seven hunks, every one of them inside the #915 region, with
content byte-identical to the scoped patches. The incoming SGLANG-ORACLE-LEASE-WHEEL
paragraph at line 190 is present unmodified, and no other file in the tree
differs from the target branch.

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…STATUS.md` whole, and pin the SHA this time (#915)

`origin/main` advanced again while this branch was in review. Two of its new
commits, `7dec1d990` and `1e1e9b1f0` (both ENG-CUDAGRAPH-BREAK), edit two of the
five records this branch touches: `.agents/environment.md` and `docs/STATUS.md`.
The other three — `.agents/benchmark-record.md`,
`.agents/specs/qwen38-27b-bf16-gate.md` and `docs/BENCHMARKS.md` — were checked
rather than assumed: their blobs are byte-identical between `727efb39c` and the
target, so nothing was owed for them.

`git merge` reported a clean automatic three-way on both contested files, and
AGENTS.md §Records forbids accepting that for a keyed record. Each was reset to
the complete target version, verified byte-identical to it, and the scoped edit
re-applied from a patch cut between two immutable SHAs, `727efb39c` and this
branch's head. One hunk each, `docs/STATUS.md` at offset +7 lines, no fuzz.

The target is PINNED to a SHA rather than named as `origin/main`, because the
first attempt at this merge was verified against a ref that moved under it. A
concurrent session fetched `a68e6e408` into the shared refs mid-merge, so
`git diff --cached origin/main` compared a `1e1e9b1f0`-based merge index against a
newer commit and reported twenty files differing when only five did. That merge
was aborted rather than reasoned around, the working tree was verified back to
its committed state file by file, and the whole procedure was redone against the
literal SHA. `a68e6e408` touches none of the five records, so the contested set
is unchanged.

Verification against the pinned SHA: exactly five paths in the tree differ from
it, carrying seven hunks, every one inside the #915 region, and the two contested
files' diff is byte-identical in content to the scoped patch. Every key this
branch does not own is therefore the target-branch version. The incoming
`A BUILD CAN DO IT TOO` bullet for `thor:gpu0`, the SGLANG-ORACLE-LEASE-WHEEL
paragraph and the `#1380 is FIXED` paragraph are all present unmodified.

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…the host boot list, and this record says it cannot (#915)

Reconciling `## Owed` against what landed on `main` in the same file exposed a
contradiction this branch introduced two commits ago.

The owed item said the derived boot time retires "in one `rc` job that runs
`journalctl --list-boots` on the host". The `boot_id` bullet in
`.agents/environment.md`, added by this same branch, says the opposite 250 lines
earlier: a lease gives you a pod, and `uptime` resetting and
`journalctl --list-boots` are host instruments a pod does not have. That is the
whole reason `boot_id` was the instrument used here. An owed item that assumes
away the constraint the record was written to state is not a cheaper retirement,
it is the same gap wearing a plan.

The item now names the boot list as the thing that settles both halves — it
prints the boot's own down and up timestamps in the host's clock, needing neither
`/proc/uptime` nor an independently known boot — and then says plainly that
whether a LEASED job can reach it is unestablished. The job is therefore to try
it and record whether it answers, with `/proc/uptime` beside `date -u` in the
same run so the virtualization question falls out either way. If the lease cannot
read the boot list, the item needs host access and stays owed. The follow-on
bullet about the two open discrepancies inherits the same conditional.

`.agents/environment.md` on `main` now carries a `thor:gpu0` bullet for the
2026-08-19 build reboot (#1380) that reaches the same instrument from the other
side and leaves the same access question open. It is a different device, a
different failure and a different section, so it neither duplicates nor
contradicts the `dgx:gpu0` bullet here — the two converge on one instrument, and
the owed item now says so, because one job that answers the access question
discharges part of both.

Checked and not changed: `docs/STATUS.md` measures 75 long paragraphs, 44
oversized cells and 11 h2 sections against a ratchet of exactly 75/44/11, using
the checker's own `_prose_paragraphs`. It measured the same at `727efb39c`,
before the other session's edit, and the same at the pinned target. Neither that
change nor this one moved it, and the ratchet is untouched. There is zero
headroom on all three keys.

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…ole and re-apply the scoped edit (#915)

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origin/main advanced to c805ccb while this row was in review, touching three of
the five records it edits: .agents/benchmark-record.md, docs/BENCHMARKS.md and
docs/STATUS.md. §Records forbids accepting an automatic three-way merge of a
keyed record, so the clean automatic result was discarded for all three, the
target's version taken whole, and the scoped edit re-applied from a patch cut
between two immutable SHAs rather than against a moving ref.

Verified by comparing the staged tree against the pinned target over the whole
repository: the only files that differ are the five this row owns, so every key
it does not own is byte-for-byte the target's version. The incoming W0e content
survives in all three contested files.

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`.agents/benchmark-record.md` auto-merged, and an automatic three-way merge of a
keyed record is not something to accept on trust, so the result was verified by
key: 369 keys, every one byte-identical to exactly one side's version, none a
blended result. Only one key moved at all, `BENCH-QWEN38-27B-BF16 c1/c8
RE-MEASURE`, edited by the target branch and untouched here.

The first attempt at this merge died with `update-index died of signal 7` while
git was taking an autostash. Nothing was left behind -- no MERGE_HEAD, HEAD
unmoved, tree clean -- and it succeeded with `merge.autoStash=false` once the
preflight run sharing this worktree had stopped. Recorded because a repo-global
stash reached across worktrees is a failure this project has paid for before,
and `git stash list` here holds nine entries belonging to other sessions.

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